Sadly not in 5x150 yet. Currently in 6x sizing with -6, 0, 6mm offsets.
Icon Rebound Pro - a different approach to DOT approved beadlocks (1 Viewer)
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So 30 new holes to leak from? Next thing you know, we will be putting tubes back in.
My thoughts exactly. It seems to be creating many more potential failure points instead of solving a problem most will never face. @TheGrrrrr @JohnJB and I did some dune bashing at Behind the Rocks in Moab, and I accidentally aired down to around 8psi on the 2 rear tires. We were driving fast all over the dunes (sharp turns up and down dunes) with wheeling and hard packed dirt road mixed in, and the Icon Vector wheels kept the bead no problem. I could maybe see a small benefit on a trail with lots of roots and rocks that stick out everywhere putting pressure on the sidewalls to break a bead, but I see this solution as creating more potential issues (increasing weight + complexity + failure points) than solving.
In the video I saw, they said it would be a very slow leak if a bolt went missing. Not buying it.
Wonder if there is some one way valve flap over the hole on the inside that closes shut if a bolt falls out or some silicone plug material surrounding each bolt which would make the guy “claim” the slow leak. But regardless probably more applicable for the rock crawling jeep folks. Interesting. Only real world trials will tell.
These wheels are amazing and super light. Black Friday they are releasing the 100 series lug patterns. Trust the tech these things plain freaking work. Already tested them out in Johnson Valley, Wyoming and Moab a couple weeks ago and I’m sold. They were used on a new Ram TRX and on a Raptor. No reason to not keep these plugs in 24-7 as the weight they add is minuscule but we had no signs of them backing out and coming loose over long highway stretches or when in use on the trails. Tires we had mounted to them were Kenda Klever RT and Cooper’s. Mounted up super easy with no complaints from the installer.
There is, tested them out by removing 1 and felt no noticeable air leak while stationary and driving down from Big Bear to Ontario convention center and back no noticeable changes in tire pressure and had Costco check the 1 tire where I removed the inner lock and tire tech at Costco said pressure was fine.
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Now, if they could just figure out how to make a 200 rear shock that doesn’t fall apart..
Really though, a properly machined groove or chamfer can seal very reliably with an oring. My concern would be the corrosive environment of brake dust and dirt, heat, water.. I doubt the finish and groove will stay in perfect shape over the years.
What bocks air escaping when the bolt is removed?
Really though, a properly machined groove or chamfer can seal very reliably with an oring. My concern would be the corrosive environment of brake dust and dirt, heat, water.. I doubt the finish and groove will stay in perfect shape over the years.
What bocks air escaping when the bolt is removed?
There is an o-ring like seal that pushes aside similar tech that they took from the Marines amphibious transport vehicles. It moves aside when taking out the pins for servicing, replacing if on rare occasion a pin breaks and replacing a tire. It creates a hermetic seal based of technology that JPL created for the ISS space station that was then incorporated by the marines. All I can say is it plain work and there really is no reason to take out the pins and bolts from the rim surface even though it semi-permanent. Talking with Scott over at ICON it has no I’ll affects to daily driving and he said before years end if not beginning of 2022 the USDOT will remove the temporary use and award them with full approval for road use compared to traditional bead locks.
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So, even if there isn’t a likely reason to remove a bolt, what blocks air escaping when one is removed? Nothing obvious was in their presentation but I have no reason to doubt your real-world experience (other than a joke reply avoiding the question). I’m simply trying to understand how it works.
Is the inside edge of the bead of the tire covering the holes and the pin pushes against this when inserted/tightened?
The hermetic seal ring as stated. When you get a chance to see it up close you’ll be able to see what I am talking about. You pretty much have the idea in your last reply about the inside edge, there is a NASA engineered o-ring seal that blocks the air and one that is pushed aside
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I’m looking forward to it. Honestly thought your ISS/hermetic thing was a joke..
Tech like this should be great for those that need it. The video bit about self tapping screws into the beads of a drag car reminded me of a friend’s nova wagon, and it works great. The kind of stuff hot rodders did decades ago.
Yeah that’s what Scott at ICON told me at Off Road Expo a couple weeks ago and I looked it up and sure enough it not new tech and works and trusted to withstand those extreme forces in dragsters and in nascar. Been seeing more videos coming out of them in action crawling and no catastrophic failures so far and heard from some friends that work in the industry and about 20 racers at king of the hammers last year ran them and all 20 finished without a issue to the internal bead locking system. Just hoping they are able to get us our lug patterns in before the holidays
