I will never be able to lift a tire up to a carrier, so I want to bring the carrier..

[Patineto]

Down to the ground..

This is my favorite concept so far even if I looks a little wimpy, it will be mounted on a "Swing out using the hitch of the truck (Can not justified a bumper)

Topical unimog madness..

Actually this concept is interested, Rolled (Hinged) to the side until it reaches the floor..

Manly, but how do you lift the freaking tire, do you need to drop it, every time you want to your doggie in the back..

To freaking weak but interesting and very cheap to find a bike rack..

Mine will need to reach the door, and be as parallel to the ground as possible, hey doctor orders..

Anybody ever made one, well something like it, Hints, disadvantage, be cruel, I learn a lot that way, I'm to hard headed sometimes.

A small sideways ramp will be a possibility but I still have some testosterone and a little SPS..

 

[tlc762]

I remember reading (in toyota trails I think) about a drop down carrier on the rear of a FJ40 that used an atv electric winch to raise and lower the carrier. It pivoted at the top of the rear bumper and the tire would pivot to vertical when the carrier was in the down (horizontal) position so that you would not have to lift it off the ground.
HTH,
Will

 

[Patineto]

I remember reading (in toyota trails I think) about a drop down carrier on the rear of a FJ40 that used an atv electric winch to raise and lower the carrier. It pivoted at the top of the rear bumper and the tire would pivot to vertical when the carrier was in the down (horizontal) position so that you would not have to lift it off the ground.
HTH,
Will

Thanks Will, I was thinking of something pneumatic since I have the suspension compressor still on the trucks, but yes a come along, ratchet, a 2 by 4 will do the trick on a pinch..

Thanks for sharing your memories...

What I don;t need is the "Manly man Unimog way..

Okay is super trick, but how do you get a 150 tire up there, i don't see any hinges, cranes, nothing to help lifted up..

Even the departure angle is bugus, the bumpers and all the crap ganging up is a 15 disadvantage already..

 

[Flipper1938]

That last one looks like it pivots at the bottom of the stinger. I can't see what look KS it in place.

 

[Patineto]

That last one looks like it pivots at the bottom of the stinger. I can't see what look KS it in place.

You are totally right, I can see them clearly now..

Thanks..

But how do they lift such a big old thing...??

 

[cruiserpilot]

I drew up a bunch when I built my rear carrier. Its quite an issue to figure how to
create a 3 way pivot. Somewhere in the 40 section a guy built a very ingenious lift
for the rear of his truck. He used a cable crank like on the front of a boat trailer.

 

[Patineto]

I drew up a bunch when I built my rear carrier. Its quite an issue to figure how to
create a 3 way pivot.

Same here I draw and I draw, well now I just draw in my head after 40 years of isometrics you kind of get use to it..

So can you share you final solution..??

Somewhere in the 40 section a guy built a very ingenious lift
for the rear of his truck. He used a cable crank like on the front of a boat trailer.

Great I start looking, any hints on the name..? so many posting..

 

[cruiserpilot]

Bought Toyo MT's. Figure my odds of needing a spare are greatly reduced. I made a conventional rear
tire carrier and I can still lift my tire onto it. I still go over those sketches sometimes. The solution
is there, I just haven't got it done. The way I see it, access is still a requirement to
the rear of the truck. So it's got to swing out as usual. I like the side rollout in that one
pic up above. The idea has merit, also if the tire is supported, then lifting is greatly reduced.

 

[Patineto]

Bought Toyo MT's. Figure my odds of needing a spare are greatly reduced. I made a conventional rear
tire carrier and I can still lift my tire onto it. I still go over those sketches sometimes. The solution
is there, I just haven't got it done. The way I see it, access is still a requirement to
the rear of the truck. So it's got to swing out as usual. I like the side rollout in that one
pic up above. The idea has merit, also if the tire is supported, then lifting is greatly reduced.

So far mine is going to be a swing out but base on the stock hitch (I can not justified one of Ben's bumpers) (using a extender hitch so is not welded permanent) but the tire will only deploy backwards (the torsional loads are far to intense if you drop the tire when the swing out is open)

To make it even more fun it will be made of mostly motorcycle parts I have save for years but since I can not ride them anymore I will put them to good use..

 

[cruiserpilot]

What size spare do you have?

 

[Patineto]

What size spare do you have?

No big deal Toyo's and i don't see them getting any bigger, but I still have about two inches more of clearance just in case..

 

[canman]

I posted something that used a military style ratchet mechanism to raise and lower the arm.

Swing Down Tire Carrier

 

[cruiserpilot]

I posted something that used a military style ratchet mechanism to raise and lower the arm.

Swing Down Tire Carrier

I remember that. It was originally a military unit for HMV's I could never figure out from the pics how the lever made
it operate to lower and then raise the tire.

 

[cruiserpilot]

I posted something that used a military style ratchet mechanism to raise and lower the arm.

Swing Down Tire Carrier

I remember that. I just used my new expandable screen to see how it worked. It's an internal ratchet/turnbuckle
mechanism. I'm going to go home and try to copy that. Need something a bit more flexible but I think I can do that.
Have to make it really heavy, then figure out how to trim the pounds.

 

[Patineto]

I remember that. I just used my new expandable screen to see how it worked. It's an internal ratchet/turnbuckle
mechanism. I'm going to go home and try to copy that. Need something a bit more flexible but I think I can do that.
Have to make it really heavy, then figure out how to trim the pounds.

If you do some modeling or real prototyping please share it, very interesting topic..

 

[canman]

IIRC they have a mechanism very similar used on tractors to adjust the 3-pint hitch for implements. Perhaps TSC or other similar stores have something you could look at.

Google ratchet turnbuckle...

ratchet turnbuckle - Google Search

 

[cruiserpilot]

That's the one. Time to figure it out.

 

[Patineto]

I may re edit this because is some missing Pictures..

After much pondering in the used of a Yakima bicycle rack "Swing out" yesterday I came with the realization I had what I need all along..

A pallet jack that was a little to far gone and then realizing it will not work with angles of my drive way anyway..

So Now I have a chuck of very stuff metal (Not as stiff as you make thing, they actually make them somehow playable so they can adapt better to the surfaces..

Here are the bones..

I think I'm going to build a "Faux" four bar linkage if will be very rigid and stiff and also will open really wide..

To me is all about the Memories and the History,anybody can go to a shop or burn his credid card ordering parts, I like to do my work with very little, usually just what I have a hand the day that I'm making (something is actually what I can find)

Early muck up on the truck.

They will be two layers of this C shape, the back one the one you see will be afix to that second hitch with a gusset trellis sub frame and then attach to the exact "Cage" surrounds the pipe" the second will be forward and will have the Front swingarm from a R1150R BMW motorcycle, on the very left a 2" hitch (that will move open with the floating arm, so I can carry a folding hitch bike rack..

Oh at the very top of all that it will be a 1 1/2" "platform: (maybe just a rectangle, a box with a from the front swing out to almost the door, to diminish flexion and to hold the back of the tire carrier and then on top of that I vertically (or maybe horizontal bike rack)

I know it looks complicated but is actually not that hard to build.

Even at this height the somehow normal size will fit, I just don't like the intrusion, I like to see from the back window if possible.


Just imagine the lower pivots of the swingarm, about 6" farther forward and the moto swingarm tilted forward (SO far I think I want the wheel facing backwards (the pretty side)

I just need to wait for a friend, I have all the welding equipment (But I do suck at it) but my breakers are to weak and keep pooping out..


the flat is for the lower hole where the shock is usually mount it, to hold a "Member" on compression, maybe a hidro piston, maybe as endless tread that i can activate with my power drill (To take the well off anyway or the stock wrench if i run out of baterys, aka the options are endless..

 

[gandrimp]

I too like to reuse old steel.

I'm still not seeing where this will help you to not lift the tire/wheel. It looks to me the swing arm is to short to reach the ground, therefore you will be trying to install/remove the nuts holding the wheel/tire combo upside down.

 

[Patineto]

I too like to reuse old steel.

I'm still not seeing where this will help you to not lift the tire/wheel. It looks to me the swing arm is to short to reach the ground, therefore you will be trying to install/remove the nuts holding the wheel/tire combo upside down.

Totally right, one problem to solve, it will be hard to be holding the wheel with one hand, the swing arm with another one and spinning the nuts with my nose, or you can but some kind of stop for the swing arm or even have a "Extension stick" so it rest on the ground with out moving...

Most of my work for clients is so meticulously plan out (Germans) I love to "Wing it" and see how it evolves on his own, depending on circumstances, hey is not like you can not cut, grind and re weld steel,,