Note: If you find anything incorrect, please ping me and I’ll update this post! At the bottom of this post, I made a decision based on this writeup what the best way of mounting is for me.
This application may be exactly the same with FJ60 ARB Bars, someone post up if so.
First - decide if this is for you. The Warn 8274 is bullet proof but it is rated for 8,000lbs by warn. Do you really want to put an 8274 in your 80? Use the search function and search “Arb 8274” There are 3 pages to read through. Come up with your own conclusion.
Second - decide how you want to do this. It is a very tight fit. There is 1.5 inches of room and you will either need to cut the GRILL or the BUMPER. The other alternative is to extend your frame 2”, drill and tap threads for the arb bolts… but I’m not going there. Just buy a Commercial bar before doing this and save yourself the grief.
Again, use the search to gain more information, but here is a thread with the GRILL cut out.
https://forum.ih8mud.com/co-wy-horsetooth-4-wheelers-cruiser-club/231700-8274-arb-80-series.html
Per the post, you will need a pair of 1.5 inch spacers
NOTE: This is the easiest and FASTEST way to do this.
This is for cutting the BUMPER.
https://forum.ih8mud.com/80-series-tech/230922-8274-80-a.html#post3533127
You can read the whole thread, but I really like what FJnAK did to his. Looks clean, this ultimately what I’d like to do.
GRILL CUTTING INSTRUCTION:
1. – Source 1” longer bolts (x4)
2. – Source 1.5” thick spacers (x2)
3. – Remove the ARB and install 8274 with sourced parts into bumper
4. – Lift bumper (with winch attached) and set on end of frame horns.
5. – Slide back slowly till it touches the grill and trace where you need to cut.
6. – Pull bumper back off and cut the location you traced.
Note: It’s probably easier to cut it while on the truck. Just be careful if you are using a reciprocating saw. I’d recommend a dremel, rotozip or even a jig saw… if you are manly enough, you will use your teeth.
7. – Push bumper into the grill and tighten down your ARB.
8. – Wire everything up and go get stuck.
BUMPER CUTTING INSTRUCTIONS:
This step requires a little more thought and a lot more 1 bannana work.
Determine if you want to use spacers, this will be the first step. You can go up to 1” in spacers, any more than this and you will need to cut into the grill.
Note: if you use 1” spacers in a Lexus or a 95 or newer Cruiser, you might run into the grill anyways.
My measurements put me straight to the grill on my 97 Lexus model with the winch FLUSH mounted to the arb. Even with 1/2" spacers, the winch will hit my grill. This means the middle cross bar will need to be completely cut out (at least at the locations where the winch will overlap)
In my application, I would go flush to the bumper to avoid cutting the grill.
1. - Obtain longer bolts depending on your spacing
2. - Take measurements - The saying "Measure twice, cut once" applies here.
3. - First pull the bumper off your rig.
4. - Next, dry fit the warn winch. Put the two bottom bolts in. TIP: Make sure you tighten evenly. You will see the roller line up equally and level with the ARB. I used the fairlead hole to guage this.
5. - Take measurements. I put the ARB bumper/winch back on the end of the frame and slid it in till it touched the grill and took measurements
a. Measure Upper winch mount holes to the flush part of the bumper - 1.5" for me
b. Measure ARB holes to frame holes
c. Note what you will have to cut out of the bumper. Decide if this is for you.
6. - Mark your cut locations and depths with a pencil
7. - Take the bumper off, winch out and make the cuts.
8. - Paint cuts and attach winch back to bumper.
9. - Wire it up and go get stuck.
Here are the pictures of my measurements 1997 Lexus. I lifted the bumper and winch alone, as I'm mobile. I'd recommend getting a friend to help.
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The Rig
The ARB
Trying to get the Winch Mounted in the ARB for test measuring
The Winch Lined up and mounted - bottom two holes. NOTE: The winch is square with the ARB.
The spacing between the lower Bolts in a Stock ARB
The spacing between the upper mounting holes (see what you have to cut?)
Looking down on the winch from above - more cuts
Looking down on the winch - Note the whole bar has to go without spacers.
Frame distance needed 1.5 inches
__________________________________________________________________
After doing all this homework and creating this writeup (I have yet to finish the job), I have decided that cutting into the Grill is the best approach, with 1.5-2" Spacers. REASON: You can get grills for $50 used in the classifieds if you want to take it off. Additionally, messing with the structure of the ARB is something I realize I don't want to do. I tow my 80 behind a Motorhome using the ARB. I'm heading out to mock it up again and will update when I'm done. I hope this helps some who wish to go this route!
This application may be exactly the same with FJ60 ARB Bars, someone post up if so.
First - decide if this is for you. The Warn 8274 is bullet proof but it is rated for 8,000lbs by warn. Do you really want to put an 8274 in your 80? Use the search function and search “Arb 8274” There are 3 pages to read through. Come up with your own conclusion.
Second - decide how you want to do this. It is a very tight fit. There is 1.5 inches of room and you will either need to cut the GRILL or the BUMPER. The other alternative is to extend your frame 2”, drill and tap threads for the arb bolts… but I’m not going there. Just buy a Commercial bar before doing this and save yourself the grief.
Again, use the search to gain more information, but here is a thread with the GRILL cut out.
https://forum.ih8mud.com/co-wy-horsetooth-4-wheelers-cruiser-club/231700-8274-arb-80-series.html
Per the post, you will need a pair of 1.5 inch spacers
NOTE: This is the easiest and FASTEST way to do this.
This is for cutting the BUMPER.
https://forum.ih8mud.com/80-series-tech/230922-8274-80-a.html#post3533127
You can read the whole thread, but I really like what FJnAK did to his. Looks clean, this ultimately what I’d like to do.
GRILL CUTTING INSTRUCTION:
1. – Source 1” longer bolts (x4)
2. – Source 1.5” thick spacers (x2)
3. – Remove the ARB and install 8274 with sourced parts into bumper
4. – Lift bumper (with winch attached) and set on end of frame horns.
5. – Slide back slowly till it touches the grill and trace where you need to cut.
6. – Pull bumper back off and cut the location you traced.
Note: It’s probably easier to cut it while on the truck. Just be careful if you are using a reciprocating saw. I’d recommend a dremel, rotozip or even a jig saw… if you are manly enough, you will use your teeth.
7. – Push bumper into the grill and tighten down your ARB.
8. – Wire everything up and go get stuck.
BUMPER CUTTING INSTRUCTIONS:
This step requires a little more thought and a lot more 1 bannana work.
Determine if you want to use spacers, this will be the first step. You can go up to 1” in spacers, any more than this and you will need to cut into the grill.
Note: if you use 1” spacers in a Lexus or a 95 or newer Cruiser, you might run into the grill anyways.
My measurements put me straight to the grill on my 97 Lexus model with the winch FLUSH mounted to the arb. Even with 1/2" spacers, the winch will hit my grill. This means the middle cross bar will need to be completely cut out (at least at the locations where the winch will overlap)
In my application, I would go flush to the bumper to avoid cutting the grill.
1. - Obtain longer bolts depending on your spacing
2. - Take measurements - The saying "Measure twice, cut once" applies here.
3. - First pull the bumper off your rig.
4. - Next, dry fit the warn winch. Put the two bottom bolts in. TIP: Make sure you tighten evenly. You will see the roller line up equally and level with the ARB. I used the fairlead hole to guage this.
5. - Take measurements. I put the ARB bumper/winch back on the end of the frame and slid it in till it touched the grill and took measurements
a. Measure Upper winch mount holes to the flush part of the bumper - 1.5" for me
b. Measure ARB holes to frame holes
c. Note what you will have to cut out of the bumper. Decide if this is for you.
6. - Mark your cut locations and depths with a pencil
7. - Take the bumper off, winch out and make the cuts.
8. - Paint cuts and attach winch back to bumper.
9. - Wire it up and go get stuck.
Here are the pictures of my measurements 1997 Lexus. I lifted the bumper and winch alone, as I'm mobile. I'd recommend getting a friend to help.
__________________________________________________________________
The Rig
The ARB
Trying to get the Winch Mounted in the ARB for test measuring
The Winch Lined up and mounted - bottom two holes. NOTE: The winch is square with the ARB.
The spacing between the lower Bolts in a Stock ARB
The spacing between the upper mounting holes (see what you have to cut?)
Looking down on the winch from above - more cuts
Looking down on the winch - Note the whole bar has to go without spacers.
Frame distance needed 1.5 inches
__________________________________________________________________
After doing all this homework and creating this writeup (I have yet to finish the job), I have decided that cutting into the Grill is the best approach, with 1.5-2" Spacers. REASON: You can get grills for $50 used in the classifieds if you want to take it off. Additionally, messing with the structure of the ARB is something I realize I don't want to do. I tow my 80 behind a Motorhome using the ARB. I'm heading out to mock it up again and will update when I'm done. I hope this helps some who wish to go this route!
out of several badly stuck situations on the 80's inaugural run. Not to mention they are darn near bullet proof and simple to repair. I really wish i would have kept it, it would have been a dream on the 80!
