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I'm taking the Cruiser off road for the first time (other than dabbling) this weekend. My Rubicon had been the primary off roader, and I got my slee sliders on today (final part of the armoring phase) 2 days before my departure to the Black Hills of South Dakota.

I'll report in after I'm back - its supposed to be snowy/slippery. I'm looking forward to having the Cruiser surprise me.

Any advice? I know it will be pretty different than a locked Wrangler with MTR's and full skids, bumpers, and sweet approach/departure angles.
 
Yeah the 06. All I have for mods are ARB, slee sliders, slee rear bumper, tires and winch (oh, sound system too). The idea is to have a vehicle I can comfortably drive 5-12 hours and then wheel it when I get there. Hardcore on rocks doesn't turn my crank much (initial impetus for buying the Rubicon) so I think the Cruiser is perfect.

From what I've read, they're pretty capable. I'm holding off the urge to buy some Toyo MTs today (have AT's) with the prospect of slippery and mud. Need to have fun researching the board on tires.
 
Does a new post move the thread back to the beginning?

OK, it does. I'll type my update now.
 
Well, spent the weekend in the Black Hills of South Dakota with some of the local Jeep guys (my first time down there I had my Rubicon - and they're a great bunch of people, so I had to go back with my Cruiser).

Weather made it a little interesting. First day rained, and ended with about 4 inches of snow. The second day snowed in the morning, and was sunny in the afternoon. Slick conditions, perfect for testing the cruiser. All of my previous experience was with a Rubicon (locked with MTR's) and full armor, so I had "big shoes" to fill with the Cruiser.

Well, to make it short, the Cruiser really impressed me. Other than big rocks that I avoided due to clearance, the TRAC system is amazing. Don't mean to make anybody upset, but it acted very similarly to lockers in my opinion. Now, I wasn't rock crawling of course, but it just didn't want to stop for anything. Even when the belly was on something, it just kept on switching around until it found traction. The Jeep guys were really impressed how it seemed to "feel" its way around for the right traction. It was really surreal how invisible the system was. I had to keep looking at the dash wondering if it was working or not.

Now I have Toyo AT's, and I did everything - wet rocks, mud, snowy muddy rock. All of the other vehicles had MT tires, and I had no need to wish I had them.

To sum up, I was very impressed, and thrilled that a "luxury" SUV could handle the trails just like a Jeep Wrangler could. I drove 300 miles in comfort, wheeled like it was made for it (obviously was) and then drove home 300 miles with no effort. And on top of it all, I was so much more comfortable on the icy highways than I would've been in my Wrangler.

Awesome vehicle, I had read it before, but now I know firsthand. It was such a thrill to take a vehicle like this and just do so well on the trails.

I'm attaching a few pics, I didn't get a chance to get many action shots, but I think the guys that I'm expecting pics from did. As all of you who have wheeled know, pics just don't tell the whole story, and make it look so much easier than it was!

In the first pic, I was waiting for the guys in front of me and thought "damn, I don't have any action shots yet, I had better get snapping pics!", In the second pic, this was just before I had to winch a lifted TJ off of a rock on the trail.

If I get some more cool pics, I'll post them. The video that I should get will be great, but unfortunately the best spots everyone was so into getting their own rigs through they didn't stop to video me.
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Nice photos, vehicle, and report. I am pleased the LC did not disappoint, but not surprised. Your report reminded me of my first time to take my LC in the snowy mountains and I was impressed that it seemed so uneventful and easy. At first I wondered if the conditions weren't as bad as I thought, but it did not take me long to settle in and enjoy it in comfort. When I returned from the trip one of the dealer reps asked how the LC did, I replied that it was uneventful. He thought I was being critical, but I clarified that tha LC made the otherwise challenging conditions uneventful (i.e. easy).

Enjoy your LC, it appears to match your intended use very well.
 
you gota get some covers for those driving lights so they stay clean till you get to the trail :-D
 
for a very short period of time I wondered if the trails weren't real hard, but then I realized that all the other vehicles along for the trip were modified, lifted, locked, and had MT tires. The one TJ with the most lift and big tires had much more problem than I did (wasn't locked). When I would ease over something, he'd use momentum.

Essentially, I have a stock cruiser with AT tires and some protection, thats it.

I also think that the "extra high" mode engaged itself a few times, as I'd come to the end of a hard section and the vehicle would lower just a bit.

Those lights are Hella's off my previous LR, and I'm gonna put some IPF's on it off my Rubicon. They get dirty beyond belief, as the "protection" on them doesn't allow for vey good cleaning.
 
If you like it now just WAIT until you lift and ARB lock it. You're about $4K away from an incrediblly capable vehicle. Considering you're current investment (an '06) that's pennies more for a dream ride. :beer:
 
Damn, I just don't see how I could justify it. Seriously, I was on some tough stuff where there was VERY little traction. The vehicle just "thought" its way through it with the TRAC and Extra High lift option.

Big reason for me not to do any powertrain work is that I have noone to troubleshoot it. I had a hell of a time with my AHC when I put the bumpers on.

Also, I'm having a hard enough time justifying my Rubicon (bought it 4 months before baby #1, #2 is on the way) due to size, and I want to at least have SOME use for it (hardest of trails).

In retrospect, I should've just gotten the Cruiser instead of the Rubicon.
 
Damn, I just don't see how I could justify it. Seriously, I was on some tough stuff where there was VERY little traction. The vehicle just "thought" its way through it with the TRAC and Extra High lift option.

Big reason for me not to do any powertrain work is that I have noone to troubleshoot it. I had a hell of a time with my AHC when I put the bumpers on.

Also, I'm having a hard enough time justifying my Rubicon (bought it 4 months before baby #1, #2 is on the way) due to size, and I want to at least have SOME use for it (hardest of trails).

In retrospect, I should've just gotten the Cruiser instead of the Rubicon.

Well John...of course it all depends on how aggressive you want to be. As is (I forgot you had AHC...though a suspension lift will further raise the vehicle) you've got a rig that can run the majority of trails and well. TRAC took care of me for the first few wheeling years. Lockers have allowed me to run just about everything.

There is a difference in tire wear between a locked and TRAC-only rig. TRAC-alone will cut up your tires more because the wheels claw for traction. On the same trails, a locked vehicle will be easier on the tires. The down side is that with lockers you might try more aggressive lines and therefore still chop the tires up. Ya can't win with wheeling! :D

Time will tell John. You'll be the one to know if you need to lock up or not. As is...you have an outfitted 2006. You suck! :D Damn, I'd luv a new one!
 
I know I'm lucky. Funny, I was looking at your rig a year ago when I wanted to get an idea of what I wanted!

I feel lucky that I'm sitting with low miles and lots of potential time to enjoy the rig.

I had thought of that wheelspin issue with the TRAC. Especially would be nice on dry rocks.
 
I know I'm lucky. Funny, I was looking at your rig a year ago when I wanted to get an idea of what I wanted!

I feel lucky that I'm sitting with low miles and lots of potential time to enjoy the rig.

I had thought of that wheelspin issue with the TRAC. Especially would be nice on dry rocks.

You'll find that TRAC works awesome on dry or wet rocks. TRAC helps a ton in off-camber spots. You will luv your rig.

On the note of you riding with Jeep buddies.....imagine them seeing you climb this 6-foot ledge, 10-foot obstacle, with a 5-foot deep offset crack. Been there....done that. You are going to LUV wheeling your Cruiser. Get used to huge smiles. :)

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Awesome. Haven't tackled anything like THAT yet.
 

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