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neslrac

neslrac

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My front heater pipe is leaking inside the firewall and dripping on my drivers foot. I found the leak but can't find a replacement pipe. Its not leaking in the engine bay where the rubber hose joins the pipe but inside between the hold done clamp and the firewall. Leak is big enough that at 5 psi it pisses a stream. Does anyone know where I can get this replacement pipe? It's a discontinued part at Toyota and I have not been able to find an after market pipe. I am pulling the heater core tonight and will get a better idea of exactly why its leaking. This was replaced 10 yrs ago with a new pipe so I am puzzled why its leaking. Depending on what I find tonight, my only option is to solder if its a hole or remove and run the rubber heater hose through the firewall to the o-ring union.

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That part does not fit a 95. The photo name is the part number I need
 
Gotta pull it out to see what's actually leaking. Not likely that the hardline itself has worn/corroded through.
 
The part number is 87248-60430. Everywhere I have checked it says discontinued. The hard line is original to the truck. The heater core was replaced ~ 10 yrs ago and it didn't come with this pipe. I remember changing the o-ring at the union. I am hoping it can be fixed and not corroded through. I do know the end in the engine bay is missing some metal at the end from corrosion because I saw that last night when I pulled the hose off. Everyone sells rear heater hard lines but no front heater. Very frustrating.
 
GLTHFJ60 said:
Gotta pull it out to see what's actually leaking . Not likely that the hardline itself has worn/corroded through.
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Not impossible for it to leak but Johnny has a good point ... I would imagine the join leaking before the line fails.

As such, yup, really do need to find the leak location. Then, if you discover it is in the hard line and really can't find one I suggest appraising just how much corrosion is there and weigh brazing it against the option of putting soft line in its place.
 
The heater pipe is out and I found two cracks, one under the clamp and another at the o-ring. This pipe is old and brittle and IS NOT going back into my truck. My plan is to buy one that is similar and bend / modify it to fit. Too much work to rip the dash apart and then put in a crappy part. This pipe has seen its days.
 
you can fill a piece of soft copper pipe with some sand and bend it to the shape you want. find an A/C guy he would most likely have a piece of pipe about that length or part with some. you could flare the end a little or just lay a bead od solder around the end of the pipe. to help the clamp hold on to the hose.
 
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Before I call it a night, this is the condition of my heater pipe. If anyone has one they want to sell or have any ideas how I can best remedy this issue, please chime in. As you can see, I have stress cracks, a really crappy hose connection and a dash that is torn apart. The sooner I can fix this, the better because I need to remember where everything goes back together while its still fresh in my head.

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From what little reading I’ve done it appears the only change in years is the pipe used to be one piece and in 97 made it two. Is that what you’ve read? if so you could (again) replace the core with the one piece pipe (on the one hand a money waste, on the other hand the core is a PITA to reach).
 
I've found one that works on a 96 + according to the site, not sure what would make a 95 different but I'll shoot you the kink when I get back to the office.
 
Rice said:
From what little reading I’ve done it appears the only change in years is the pipe used to be one piece and in 97 made it two. Is that what you’ve read? if so you could (again) replace the core with the one piece pipe (on the one hand a money waste, on the other hand the core is a PITA to reach).
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The pipe in the 95 is a two piece, the connection is under the support clamp (see pic in my first post) and the two pipes join by an o-ring and a small clamp. I think the 97 and forward changed to a one piece pipe. I ordered it last night hoping I can modify it to work. I really don't want to spend the $$ on a new core because mine is in great shape but then again, I really don't want to have to rip into the dash again. Researching this online, I am not the only person who is looking for this pipe. I think its the weak link of the entire cooling system and no one has after market replacements that I can find. :(
 
fourtrax said:
you can fill a piece of soft copper pipe with some sand and bend it to the shape you want. find an A/C guy he would most likely have a piece of pipe about that length or part with some. you could flare the end a little or just lay a bead od solder around the end of the pipe. to help the clamp hole on to the hose.
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This is what I was thinking. He would not even have to fill it with sand if he gets the soft copper stuff (comes in a coil ). that looks like 1/2" copper pipe found at any hardware store and sold by the foot. Bend it then solder it. The line copper will not bend without getting kinked.
 
SFROMAN said:
This is what I was thinking. He would not even have to fill it with sand if he gets the soft copper stuff (comes in a coil ). that looks like 1/2" copper pipe found at any hardware store and sold by the foot. Bend it then solder it. The line copper will not bend without getting kinked.
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SFROMAN said:
This is what I was thinking. He would not even have to fill it with sand if he gets the soft copper stuff (comes in a coil ). that looks like 1/2" copper pipe found at any hardware store and sold by the foot. Bend it then solder it. The line copper will not bend without getting kinked.
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Any idea what type of metal is used for the pipe? It looks like brass and would readily accept solder. I will use the old pipe as a test so I don't mess up the pipe coming out of the core. This will be my last resort if the piece I ordered can't be modified. I also have to figure out how to put a lip on the end so the rubber hose won't slip off. I saw the solder comment but I think it would be pretty hard to get a nice even lip. I also think I have those metal springs that slip over the tube so it doesn't kink when bending. I will have to dig around. I use to do residential AC as a youth and I have some of those old tools stuffed away some where. Keep the ideas coming
 
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