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Yeah, everything I have found here is a drop in climb out situation. Some are mud banks others have rocks or sections of concrete.

I did drive some in Union and Clark County today. Lots of just keeping it pegged as I crabbed up muddy hills.

That's exactly what I wanted to know. Thanks!
I should have added that when I had it aligned at an off road shop, they pushed the castor forward, so the only rubbing I'm getting is just a little and that's at lock-to-lock on the rear, inner of the fender.
You will probably need to get the same type of alignment.
 
If you're stuck and sitting on the frame, there is nothing other than a pull that will get you out.
Only other option would be jacking up the tires and back filling them with traction boards, rocks or?

Or...

Unless you landed in a bog and sinking STOP spinning the wheels and digging down when you start throwing dirt. Start cutting those tree boughs off at the base of the trees around you and stick them under the tires. Large end down in the ground of course. You can even do that with them same way to make an emergency shelter to sleep in if you have to spend the night and stay pretty comfortable.

If that doesn't give you enough traction which it almost always does then it is time to jack the rear up in the center. 2 people can often push it backwards as long as the front isn't dug in to deep. When the jack kicks out then it throws you back a few more inches usually out of the rut you made.

If that doesn't work then leave it on the jack and hook up the more power puller. That picture is a good reason I sold the PTO on my FJ55 way back when, I never needed to go forward it was always backwards when stuck. Unless you are pulling someone else out and I've run solo for half a century. Don't need no junebug hotspotting my grouse coverts.

I wouldn't pull a breached calf out of her momma with most comealongs made today, they are garbage made in China. But a loggers Wyeth-Scott more power puller 3 ton will work and fits nicely in most 20" tool boxs with room for extra cable and a snatch block. At my age my goal is to avoid using it, I don't need a heart attack getting unstuck. But learned a long time ago pulling the handle on one that slow is fast if I do have to.

At least it ended well with a FJ and not a Heap that came along first!
 
If you're stuck and sitting on the frame, there is nothing other than a pull that will get you out.
Only other option would be jacking up the tires and back filling them with traction boards, rocks or?

Concur. Only time for me was Crawl induced but I was teetering on floorboards upon a mountain of sand. 😎

Humbling day.
 
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Unless you landed in a bog and sinking STOP spinning the wheels and digging down when you start throwing dirt. Start cutting those tree boughs off at the base of the trees around you and stick them under the tires. Large end down in the ground of course. You can even do that with them same way to make an emergency shelter to sleep in if you have to spend the night and stay pretty comfortable.

If that doesn't give you enough traction which it almost always does then it is time to jack the rear up in the center. 2 people can often push it backwards as long as the front isn't dug in to deep. When the jack kicks out then it throws you back a few more inches usually out of the rut you made.

If that doesn't work then leave it on the jack and hook up the more power puller. That picture is a good reason I sold the PTO on my FJ55 way back when, I never needed to go forward it was always backwards when stuck. Unless you are pulling someone else out and I've run solo for half a century. Don't need no junebug hotspotting my grouse coverts.

I wouldn't pull a breached calf out of her momma with most comealongs made today, they are garbage made in China. But a loggers Wyeth-Scott more power puller 3 ton will work and fits nicely in most 20" tool boxs with room for extra cable and a snatch block. At my age my goal is to avoid using it, I don't need a heart attack getting unstuck. But learned a long time ago pulling the handle on one that slow is fast if I do have to.

At least it ended well with a FJ and not a Heap that came along first!
You can also use your HighLift (assuming you have one) as a winch.
 
Just got the call been waiting for since August, I've been #2 on the list for a 250 since then. Choice of black or brown leather so must be #1 on the list passed on his. $70,500 so no additional dealer markup. Was hard to do and took me a few minutes but said no. The 460 has grown on me and in a few years maybe, but would not rule out a 550 Overtrail + either. I'm afraid the GX has spoiled and ruined me I will never be the same LOL.

You can also use your HighLift (assuming you have one) as a winch.


Growing up we called them farm jacks and I've stretched a couple of miles of barbed wire with them if the come a long wasn't around. Which it usually wasn't. Farm stores still sell them, they just don't have the name Hi Lift on them and are a lot cheaper. But also made a lot cheaper too.
 
Just got back from my first long road trip in the GX, annual Spring sporting clays lessons with my coach in North Chicago. Of all places, but he is one of the best in the Country and worth the drive to me. The GX is a game changer for long trips and looking forward to traveling more this summer and this fall exploring into the Sunset Country of Canada.

Before I left installed the Beatsonic Shiftpower not so much as a throttle response controller but for the anti theft throttle lockout. The peace of mind was well worth it for urban settings and sitting in hotel parking lots. With farm equipment on the roads now as they start work in the fields passing them with short open windows is nice, but was already impressed with factory response coming from a 2nd gen Taco that like a 4R can hardly get out their own way, just saying.

This is probably posted somewhere else here on Mud that I didn't see



I really like Tinkerer's Adventure videos and watched it on my phone in the hotel room when you posted it. And just watched it on the computer this morning where I can actually watch it correctly. It is well worth the time thanks for posting it.

Put a smile on my face when the Lexus Chief Engineer Koji Tsukasaki said the Land Cruiser 300 is designed as a luxury vehicle and the GX is designed as a true off road vehicle. Some on here would have a coronary if they heard that LOL.

Many moons ago got tired of the bronze valve guides wearing out on the 2F straight 6 in my FJ55 so I used one of the first Man-A-Fre conversion kits to replace the 2F with a Chevy 350. Besides it was as good of an excuse as any to stuff a V8 in there. Started with an acid dipped bare block and built it up for low end torque. This is back when everyone else was installing wild eccentric cams for high end and I built for low end. When looking for a block my main concern was finding a 4 bolt main instead of a 2 bolt and I finally found one across the Sound over in Seattle. 2 bolt vs. 4 bolt main mean something different than a 6 bolt vs. ladder main today. But it all boils down to engineering strength in the support design of the bearings.

I missed the whole 6 bolt thing that came later and now the ladder main which is a huge change. Not sure if it is good or not, it may explain some things. As Tinker says maybe....

Favorite part of the video



V8 badge was in the mailbox when I got home. The Land Cruiser badge was delayed by USPS and should be here Monday. Trying to keep the GX "clean" but both are going on next week after watching that video :)
 
I worked at an auto parts store that had a performance section in 1999. I loved hooking people up with a cam intake and carb.

RV cams and a smallish Carter 4 barrel AFB made a lot of people very happy with the drive- ability. Not as sexxy as a big single plenum intake and loppy cam, but probably faster on the street.
 
Just got back from my first long road trip in the GX, annual Spring sporting clays lessons with my coach in North Chicago. Of all places, but he is one of the best in the Country and worth the drive to me. The GX is a game changer for long trips
Last weekend I was camping in the rain and doing some reasonably serious off roading. This weekend the wife and I did a 850 mile drive down to Tampa and the only problem is that I didn't have time to clean all of the stuck on mud off my floor mats.
 
I worked at an auto parts store that had a performance section in 1999. I loved hooking people up with a cam intake and carb.

RV cams and a smallish Carter 4 barrel AFB made a lot of people very happy with the drive- ability. Not as sexxy as a big single plenum intake and loppy cam, but probably faster on the street.

20 years prior to that so I went with a Holly 600 CFM quad Carb. Edelbrock low end cam and matching intake manifold. If I could keep my foot from opening the secondaries I could hit double digits in miles per gallon. But as Ron White said I had the right to, but didn't have the ability :)

IIRC Edelbrock sold the cam as an improved gas mileage cam not many were looking for low end torque at the time, most were looking at high rpms and high end torque. But the power band on the spec sheet for it was pretty close to where I wanted it.
 
20 years prior to that so I went with a Holly 600 CFM quad Carb. Edelbrock low end cam and matching intake manifold. If I could keep my foot from opening the secondaries I could hit double digits in miles per gallon. But as Ron White said I had the right to, but didn't have the ability :)

IIRC Edelbrock sold the cam as an improved gas mileage cam not many were looking for low end torque at the time, most were looking at high rpms and high end torque. But the power band on the spec sheet for it was pretty close to where I wanted it.
New Hollies were good, had a ton of rebuilt Hollies returned. They were sold as towing/RV cams in my tenure, opposed to just a low end torque profile
 
Just got back from my first long road trip in the GX, annual Spring sporting clays lessons with my coach in North Chicago. Of all places, but he is one of the best in the Country and worth the drive to me. The GX is a game changer for long trips and looking forward to traveling more this summer and this fall exploring into the Sunset Country of Canada.

Before I left installed the Beatsonic Shiftpower not so much as a throttle response controller but for the anti theft throttle lockout. The peace of mind was well worth it for urban settings and sitting in hotel parking lots. With farm equipment on the roads now as they start work in the fields passing them with short open windows is nice, but was already impressed with factory response coming from a 2nd gen Taco that like a 4R can hardly get out their own way, just saying.



I really like Tinkerer's Adventure videos and watched it on my phone in the hotel room when you posted it. And just watched it on the computer this morning where I can actually watch it correctly. It is well worth the time thanks for posting it.

Put a smile on my face when the Lexus Chief Engineer Koji Tsukasaki said the Land Cruiser 300 is designed as a luxury vehicle and the GX is designed as a true off road vehicle. Some on here would have a coronary if they heard that LOL.

Many moons ago got tired of the bronze valve guides wearing out on the 2F straight 6 in my FJ55 so I used one of the first Man-A-Fre conversion kits to replace the 2F with a Chevy 350. Besides it was as good of an excuse as any to stuff a V8 in there. Started with an acid dipped bare block and built it up for low end torque. This is back when everyone else was installing wild eccentric cams for high end and I built for low end. When looking for a block my main concern was finding a 4 bolt main instead of a 2 bolt and I finally found one across the Sound over in Seattle. 2 bolt vs. 4 bolt main mean something different than a 6 bolt vs. ladder main today. But it all boils down to engineering strength in the support design of the bearings.

I missed the whole 6 bolt thing that came later and now the ladder main which is a huge change. Not sure if it is good or not, it may explain some things. As Tinker says maybe....

Favorite part of the video



V8 badge was in the mailbox when I got home. The Land Cruiser badge was delayed by USPS and should be here Monday. Trying to keep the GX "clean" but both are going on next week after watching that video :)

Okay, now you're making me have to up put up an old story of mine.
Had a 1974 Chevy Vega wagon, you know, the ones with the aluminum blocks and would blow oil past the rings at 40,000 miles?
A guy around the block had a small drag racer and was pulling his old Buick 215 ci V8 out and swapping for a stroked Chevy 350. He gave me a deal on it so I bought it and wedged it into my little 4 banger engine bay. It was a great fit since it was a wide 90° angle V8, it sat low and didn't need to cut a hole in the hood for the air cleaner. Being it was aluminum I also didn't need to beef up the front suspension either.
It went from about 110 HP/138 lb-ft to about 200 HP/250 lb-ft! Needless to say it was a hoot to drive till I literally tore the shock mounts from the unibody and blew the rear diff.
 
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Okay, now you're making me have to up put up an old story of mine.
Had a 1974 Chevy Vega wagon, you know, the ones with the aluminum blocks and would blow oil past the rings at 40,000 miles?
A guy around the block had a small drag racer and was pulling his old Buick 215 ci V8 out and swapping for a stroked Chevy 350. He gave me a deal on it so I bought it and wedged it into my little 4 banger engine bay. It was a great fit since it was a wide 90° angle V8, it sat low and didn't need to cut a hole in the hood for the air cleaner. Being it was aluminum I also didn't need to beef up the front suspension either.
It went from about 110 HP/138 lb-ft to about 200 HP/250 lb-ft! Needless to say it was a hoot to drive till I literally tore the shock mounts from the unibody and blew the rear diff.
I missed a chance to pick up a related specimen a long time back. 1961 Olds F-85 with the 215 Rockette motor. My current ride was a 1966 Pontiac Catalina with the 389, so I was too heavily invested in fuel and Instead-o-lead to acquire another vehicle at the time. 🤣
 
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Relocated my trailer plug and did the rear diff oil today at 44,500 miles. I was going to do the rest, but judging from the condition of the rear diff oil I think it'll be fine to do a few more miles on the fluid. Next up is trans cooler/flush and an oil change. Should be ready June for a 2,000ish mile trip.

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Has anyone found any new gas tank skid plate options? As far as I can tell, the only ones are C4, Victory4x4, RCI, and the OEM 4Runner full fuel skid.
Budbuilt's works great. Install is easy enough. It has plenty of clearance for the axle or driveshaft (or Bud's rear diff skid) while flexing which I know is an issue with some of our fuel tank skid options. I am also a big stupid idiot so I regularly use my skid plates and can confirm the fuel tank skid works in that regard and has saved me many, many dollars.

 
Budbuilt's works great. Install is easy enough. It has plenty of clearance for the axle or driveshaft (or Bud's rear diff skid) while flexing which I know is an issue with some of our fuel tank skid options. I am also a big stupid idiot so I regularly use my skid plates and can confirm the fuel tank skid works in that regard and has saved me many, many dollars.

Thanks, I must have missed that one.
 
Priced a BMC. Been Eyeballing different bigger tires to step up to 34-34.5.

Shop said 50$ to cut 120$ to cut and cover per side.
 
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Priced a BMC. Been Eyeballing different bigger tires to step up to 34-34.5.

Shop said 50$ to cut 120$ to cut and cover per side.
That seems reasonable (and possibly a very good price even) especially if it includes painting over the BMC after all is said and done. Are they using a off-the-shelf plate or their own?
 
Their own. I don't want to buy spacers or wheels so that will dictate what tire I end up with. May even go back to the 18s
 

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