GX460 & GXOR B.S. thread (41 Viewers)

[Wildcat Walker]

I agree, too muddy for 460. That's dry asphalt for a 40.

 

[Hiluxforever]

Well said F-it and went up the hardest trail I knew. It handled it like a machine, definitely had to go full throttle on multiple occasions as as I thought I was thoroughly f-ed.

I did walk away unscathed, had a puncture on trail and had to nurse a nearly flat spare a few miles to a gas station. I left my compressor hose at home. Oops. Time to buy a spare.

I rarely do anything even remotely difficult in my GX, this was the first time, and it's an absolute animal. (With an aussie accent like 4wd 24/7)

 

[Ohio Nori]

Not with oem offset, I could go up to a 34x10.5 (actually 33.5) easy peazy. Alignment is another variable and those of us in the rust belt may lose LCA adjustability. My passenger LCA is frozen.

I reached out to the guys at Accutune. John and I exchanged emails when I had my 4R too. I’m leaning toward their tuned Fox kit 2.5front and 2.0 rear with icon delta joint UCA’s. It seems reviews are mixed on the delta joints. At the price point I could go Toytec 2.5 Aluma midnight or Elka. I’m just not well versed in the differences between each setup. I’ll keep my 265/65/18s until the tread is worn and then move to 17s most likely.

 

[rav8]

I reached out to the guys at Accutune. John and I exchanged emails when I had my 4R too. I’m leaning toward their tuned Fox kit 2.5front and 2.0 rear with icon delta joint UCA’s. It seems reviews are mixed on the delta joints. At the price point I could go Toytec 2.5 Aluma midnight or Elka. I’m just not well versed in the differences between each setup. I’ll keep my 265/65/18s until the tread is worn and then move to 17s most likely.

In my experience, if you just floor it and hope ATRAC sorts it out, ATRAC will often sort it out quite well. But if ATRAC can't sort it out, it will eventually just kill all power and you end up sliding backwards down an icy hairpin turn where you are thankful you stay in the ruts multiple times and/or just running out of steam.
I figured this out earlier this year doing some winter off roading on my worn out tires that stopped working on ice (a fun time to learn that). If I locked to 1st or 2nd, I would just end up spinning wheels without enough speed to get through things. If I locked to 3rd, I could reach enough speed at a lower rpm to keep ATRAC/MTS happy and power through/over the zero traction stuff.

I think the magic zone for ATRAC is like 2000 - 4000 rpm. Closer to redline, it feels like it is more about limiting power vs limiting wheel spin.

I'm not a magician and can't make anyone drive better but going up almost an inch just with tires really does expand the capabity of the GX. Suspension lifts introduce problems less easily reconciled (alignments, extended UCA/LCA parts/arms, brake lines, etc). ATRAC/MTS/Crawl are amazing.

 

[Hiluxforever]

I'm not a magician and can't make anyone drive better but going up almost an inch just with tires really does expand the capabity of the GX. Suspension lifts introduce problems less easily reconciled (alignments, extended UCA/LCA parts/arms, brake lines, etc). ATRAC/MTS/Crawl are amazing.

With ATRAC, a good set of shoes, and whatever armor is appropriate for your wheeling and you will love it.

I want 35s long term but have had good luck with 33s so far and feel it's the minimum once you further reduce your clearance with skids.

 

[Hiluxforever]

Does anyone know what width tire can be run on oem toyota steelies of the 17x7.5 variety?

Will 315s rub the UCA? I did some searches and couldn't find anything conclusive. I saw some evidence of folks running them on Tacomas and FJ Cruisers but maybe they used spacers?

I am against spacers for better or worse.

 

[Hiluxforever]

Made a Prado Point profile amd still waiting to have it activated.

 

[Banandalorian]

I'm not a magician and can't make anyone drive better but going up almost an inch just with tires really does expand the capabity of the GX. Suspension lifts introduce problems less easily reconciled (alignments, extended UCA/LCA parts/arms, brake lines, etc). ATRAC/MTS/Crawl are amazing.

As someone regularly took their GX off road with stock suspension for nearly 3 years, I feel confident saying that a stock GX with good tires can do a lot of work off road, but a GX with a properly done lift and all the other things is a revelation.

 

[rav8]

As someone regularly took their GX off road with stock suspension for nearly 3 years, I feel confident saying that a stock GX with good tires can do a lot of work off road, but a GX with a properly done lift and all the other things is a revelation.

Oh, I agree on upgraded suspension as well. A properly done lift, takes research and the right people to perform the work. I just don't think it is necessary to enjoy the vehicle on terrain that most owners would never consider tackling.

 

[Hiluxforever]

I positively identified another dozen dirt roads today and probably about 3 or 4 little creek crossings.

 

[Rednexus]

You need to head to the next state south for good creek crossings .

 

[Cold Iron]

Next State North has more than its share of water crossings. Because damn beavers, or rather beaver dams.

The dogs have come to think they are beavers and will snag a beaver chew as soon as they see one, they must taste good to them

Most are a bit deeper but doable

Some it is time to break out the over the boot Wiggley packable waders to check depth and bottom structure

Nope, that is a pass. I send the dog in to see when they let go of the bottom and judge from there if it is worth breaking out the Wiggley's

The previous weeks rainfall amounts have a lot to do with if it a go or no go.

 

[r2m]

Does anyone know what width tire can be run on oem toyota steelies of the 17x7.5 variety?

Will 315s rub the UCA? I did some searches and couldn't find anything conclusive. I saw some evidence of folks running them on Tacomas and FJ Cruisers but maybe they used spacers?

I am against spacers for better or worse.

My 315's don't rub on the UCA's but on the inner fender well.
These are the specs of the wheel I have:

• ICON Six Speed 17" x 8.50" Wheel - Bronze, Product Line: Six Speed (qty: 5)
• ICON-1417858347BR
  • Six Speed
  • Specification
  • Color/Finish: Bronze
  • Material: Aluminum Alloy
  • Wheel Diameter: 17"
  • Wheel Width: 8.50"
  • Bolt Pattern: 6 x 5.5
  • Backspace: 4.750"
  • Offset: 0 mm
  • Bore: 108 mm
  • Load Rating: 2500 lb
  • Weight: 30 lb

 

[Hiluxforever]

Yeah, everything I have found here is a drop in climb out situation. Some are mud banks others have rocks or sections of concrete.

I did drive some in Union and Clark County today. Lots of just keeping it pegged as I crabbed up muddy hills.

My 315's don't rub on the UCA's but on the inner fender well.
These are the specs of the wheel I have:

• ICON Six Speed 17" x 8.50" Wheel - Bronze, Product Line: Six Speed (qty: 5)
• ICON-1417858347BR
  • Six Speed
  • Specification
  • Color/Finish: Bronze
  • Material: Aluminum Alloy
  • Wheel Diameter: 17"
  • Wheel Width: 8.50"
  • Bolt Pattern: 6 x 5.5
  • Backspace: 4.750"
  • Offset: 0 mm
  • Bore: 108 mm
  • Load Rating: 2500 lb
  • Weight: 30 lb

That's exactly what I wanted to know. Thanks!

 

[Prado GX460]

The one and only time I got stuck. Trying to get turned around on a trail. Don’t try to plow snow when it’s up to your frame. Not even chains on all corners will get you out of that without a tug.

 

[Bang Bang]

The one and only time I got stuck. Trying to get turned around on a trail. Don’t try to plow snow when it’s up to your frame. Not even chains on all corners will get you out of that without a tug.
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Crawl Control would have worked to get you out of that.......

 

[Prado GX460]

Crawl Control would have worked to get you out of that.......

I tried CC. It doesn’t work in deep icy snow

 

[Cold Iron]

I tried CC. It doesn’t work in deep icy snow

I dunno about that... Got me out of the driveway last month when my Taco would have been sideways and not going forward. Long steep paver brick drive that many will not drive into even in the summer. Looks like you dug down in the dirt until you were high centered. Frost line here is 60" deep and last until first of May so that helps.

Started with rain that turned to solid ice then a foot of snow then more rain at below freezing. Then another half foot of snow and some rain for icing on that which soaked in. Then the plow went by so had more than 3 feet at the top tapering down to at least 2 feet and deeper in the rest of the drive. And everything froze solid by morning. Didn't even try the snow blower it wouldn't make it through that icy mess even though it is a self driven beast with chains. Well that and I was tired of winter and it was supposed to hit 40 in a couple of days.

First time using CC and was pleasantly surprised it drove through it like a champ never even slowed or slid, it took me up to the main road without hesitation. No chains just Falken Wildpeaks. Had a local 4x4 shop do my bumper cut for me and they told me that the bumper after the cut needed braced and reinforced or I would leave it in the first snowbank I tried to go through. They knew what they were doing, I was well above the cut up into the grille with snow and ice. Color me a fan of CC now although I don't plan on using it regularly, just another tool to add to the tool bag.

 

[Prado GX460]

I dunno about that... Got me out of the driveway last month when my Taco would have been sideways and not going forward. Long steep paver brick drive that many will not drive into even in the summer. Looks like you dug down in the dirt until you were high centered. Frost line here is 60" deep and last until first of May so that helps.

Started with rain that turned to solid ice then a foot of snow then more rain at below freezing. Then another half foot of snow and some rain for icing on that which soaked in. Then the plow went by so had more than 3 feet at the top tapering down to at least 2 feet and deeper in the rest of the drive. And everything froze solid by morning. Didn't even try the snow blower it wouldn't make it through that icy mess even though it is a self driven beast with chains. Well that and I was tired of winter and it was supposed to hit 40 in a couple of days.

First time using CC and was pleasantly surprised it drove through it like a champ never even slowed or slid, it took me up to the main road without hesitation. No chains just Falken Wildpeaks. Had a local 4x4 shop do my bumper cut for me and they told me that the bumper after the cut needed braced and reinforced or I would leave it in the first snowbank I tried to go through. They knew what they were doing, I was well above the cut up into the grille with snow and ice. Color me a fan of CC now although I don't plan on using it regularly, just another tool to add to the tool bag.

It was just the conditions I was in. CC is what dug it down and I had to stop and dig. A fellow driving by with an FJ gave me a tug and I got out.

 

[r2m]

Crawl Control would have worked to get you out of that.......

If you're stuck and sitting on the frame, there is nothing other than a pull that will get you out.
Only other option would be jacking up the tires and back filling them with traction boards, rocks or?