The LSLC Roundup will be it's first test off road, but I was tinkering with the Cruiser this AM and tried out the 4LO-LO combination on the Marlin Toybox again....it's so SLOW it's almost useless (175:1)! This is *awesome*, I haven't been able to slow the big beast down on steep trails for a long time, it will be nice to get back to finesse wheeling instead of boucing along!