Fox 2.0 Install with progressive 3" coils

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Just noticed this thread. The shocks you have are too long for 285 (33's). As mentioned 10" for 33's. Otherwise your wasting alot of compression left in the flexi coil. Alot of people keep trying to go off the static length to give 50/50 60/40 or whatever. Measure your shocks last or copy someone who has tuned it correctly for tire, lift and shock size. You want as much compression as available without rubbing. Otherwise your truck will lean out more during articulation. 5" flexi's, 12" fox and 35's work in with eachother very well. Extension length for rear bumpstops are 5" or 125mm.
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Some feed back on ride qaulity and performance would great aslo. Your valving will be for a single bleed as mentioned also.

Cheers.
 
If you are having reservoir clearance issues you don't have to strap them to the shock. Here is how I did mine on a previous rig. I called Fox and they said this orientation was acceptable and that they could be mounted upside down or right side up. Note, that some of their shocks that have already attached reservoirs can't be flip flopped. You don't want them getting bound up and possibly broken open with 200psi. Not to mention they cost a pretty penny [URL="http://farm5.staticflickr.com/4068/4283130057_f23c46a2ce_b.jpg"][URL="http://farm5.staticflickr.com/4068/4283130057_f23c46a2ce_b.jpg"][/URL][/URL][URL="http://farm5.staticflickr.com/4038/4283885400_e89e7bc3ed_b.jpg"][URL="http://farm5.staticflickr.com/4038/4283885400_e89e7bc3ed_b.jpg"][/URL][/URL]
 
TheBigBoy said:
Just noticed this thread. The shocks you have are too long for 285 (33's). As mentioned 10" for 33's. Otherwise your wasting alot of compression left in the flexi coil. Alot of people keep trying to go off the static length to give 50/50 60/40 or whatever. Measure your shocks last or copy someone who has tuned it correctly for tire, lift and shock size. You want as much compression as available without rubbing. Otherwise your truck will lean out more during articulation. 5" flexi's, 12" fox and 35's work in with eachother very well. Extension length for rear bumpstops are 5" or 125mm.




Some feed back on ride qaulity and performance would great aslo. Your valving will be for a single bleed as mentioned also.

Cheers.
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I have to agree. The guy at 4WP wanted to put 12" Foxes on mine but I had to disagree.

33s with 2.5" HD coils and 30mm coil spacers:
Static - 22"
Collapsed - 18-19"

10" Fox Shocks
Extended - 26.1"
Static - 21.1" 4" up, 6" down
Collapsed - 16.1"

12" Fox Shocks
Extended - 31.1"
Static - 25.1" 3" up, 9" down
Collapsed - 19.10"

I went with the 10s. However I believe he is a inch higher than me. That should put him at:

Static - 23"
Collapsed - 19"-20"

He would be collapsing right on the shock. Can you run the 10" Foxes with 35s??
 
But these are flexi coils. You can't really guess it in differences of inches between the 2. They have a little bit more compression and alot more open length than the same height linear coil.

Totally forget about static length. It has absolutely no bearing on correct shock size. It's just a rough guess.

You can run 10" with 35"s. but it will restrict drop.
 
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TheBigBoy said:
Just noticed this thread. The shocks you have are too long for 285 (33's). As mentioned 10" for 33's. Otherwise your wasting alot of compression left in the flexi coil.

Cheers.
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Been through this previously in this thread and the numbers for the 10" Remote Resi's dont add up...

Thomo said:
Hey Rwhat,

as the rig stands now, I have 4" up travel available on DS and 3.5" on PS (note this us on a RHD 80). I have put the discrepancy between the PS and DS down to the panhard, as the axle is just over an inche off centre to the DS.

If I had gone for the 10" Versions (ext: 25.19, col: 15.19) then I would be sitting with 9" up travel and 1" down travel... If I have done my Maths right that doesn't really seem ideal.

At the end of the day the coils I have are designed to work around a 12" travel shock, whilst I agree that mine are a bit long, I'm not adverse to the idea of fabbing up customs mounts to solve a problem when the end result is a good long travel suspension setup.
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I know the shocks are a little long, there weren't any threads on this type of setup with detailed info before this one...;)

To deal with this I'm fitting 30mm coils to give me an extra inch of lift and free up another inch of compression travel. If after I have dropped my bumpstops and had a chance to load the rig up I find i'm hitting the bumpstops excessivly then I may look at going for a taller flexi coil. I am still also toying with the idea of raising the rear mount an inch... if I have to.

Bigboy, with regards to tyre size, I'll be moving up to 35's soon, possibly 37's... what range would that put me into regarding shock lengths?

tpham32 said:
I have to agree. The guy at 4WP wanted to put 12" Foxes on mine but I had to disagree.

33s with 2.5" HD coils and 30mm coil spacers:
Static - 22"
Collapsed - 18-19"

10" Fox Shocks
Extended - 26.1"
Static - 21.1" 4" up, 6" down
Collapsed - 16.1"

12" Fox Shocks
Extended - 31.1"
Static - 25.1" 3" up, 9" down
Collapsed - 19.10"

I went with the 10s. However I believe he is a inch higher than me. That should put him at:

Static - 23"
Collapsed - 19"-20"

He would be collapsing right on the shock. Can you run the 10" Foxes with 35s??
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Tpham32, Could you please elaborate on how you got to thse numbers. If you have a shock 26.1" long and put into a space 22" long then the shock would have to compress 4", therefore giving 6" up and 4" down...? Or am I just being Dim:confused:.

Also if according to the numbers you posted for the 12" shock then in my RR is 30.19" ext and 18.19col that is an inch shorter thatn the non RR figures you quoted with would then put you at 4" up and 8" down...:hhmm: which is pretty much what I'm sitting at on the rear.

Now once the coil spacers go in then I'll be sitting at 5" up/ 7" Down which shouldn't be too bad. But then I don't know how much this rig is going to sag once I load it up. Bigboy maybe you can help us here with that??
 
Thomo said:
Been through this previously in this thread and the numbers for the 10" Remote Resi's dont add up...



I know the shocks are a little long, there weren't any threads on this type of setup with detailed info before this one...;)

To deal with this I'm fitting 30mm coils to give me an extra inch of lift and free up another inch of compression travel. If after I have dropped my bumpstops and had a chance to load the rig up I find i'm hitting the bumpstops excessivly then I may look at going for a taller flexi coil. I am still also toying with the idea of raising the rear mount an inch... if I have to.

Bigboy, with regards to tyre size, I'll be moving up to 35's soon, possibly 37's... what range would that put me into regarding shock lengths?



Tpham32, Could you please elaborate on how you got to thse numbers. If you have a shock 26.1" long and put into a space 22" long then the shock would have to compress 4", therefore giving 6" up and 4" down...? Or am I just being Dim:confused:.

Also if according to the numbers you posted for the 12" shock then in my RR is 30.19" ext and 18.19col that is an inch shorter thatn the non RR figures you quoted with would then put you at 4" up and 8" down...:hhmm: which is pretty much what I'm sitting at on the rear.

Now once the coil spacers go in then I'll be sitting at 5" up/ 7" Down which shouldn't be too bad. But then I don't know how much this rig is going to sag once I load it up. Bigboy maybe you can help us here with that??
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Oh yeah, sorry about that :whoops:. My flipped my numbers
 
Gotcha, wouldn't have been the first time I was being a bit dim...

When are your shocks going on?
 
Thomo said:
Been through this previously in this thread and the numbers for the 10" Remote Resi's dont add up...
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What doesnt add up is all this static length 50/50 60/40 crap. You guys are just cheating yourself by using it.

How suspension shops work out shock length is an old fashioned guide. Its not really tuned and almost always wrong. They already know what height lift you will end up with, with those coils (static, perch to perch). They usually already have the shock measurement or they measure it at ride height also (static, pin to eye). They look at their chart and find a shock where that static ride height measurement of the shock is middle of the shocks comp/ext. = 50/50 done. If they want to cover their own ass from 1 over compressing they change that to 40/60. Do they ever ask what tire size your running? Nor do they extend bumpstops or ask what you want it for (rock crawling, high speed racing etc etc).

Cycling and tuning your suspension is the ONLY way to do it correctly. Unless we are all talking about the same brand shocks the mention 10" for 33's etc is just a guide as the 10" part means nothing. The compression measurment of the shock is everything. Nomatter what brand.
 
Thomo said:
Gotcha, wouldn't have been the first time I was being a bit dim...

When are your shocks going on?
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Nah don't worry, we all have our moments. They should be coming in next week! Im excited though I wish I had them going to Uwharrie this Friday.
 
Y'all have successfully forged my plan to cycle the front and rear with the intended tires mounted, then order shocks from the measurements.

Stuff both tires 1/4" lower than running the fenders (cut or uncut), measure and add a 1/4", that's the compressed dimension. Drop one side to max droop and confirm the stuffed tire still clears.

Drop the front end to 1/4" before the coil falls out, in the event the links or driveshaft don't bind before, the measure for extended dimension.

Set the front an rear bumps 1/2" before max compression, limit straps 1/2" before full shock extension.

Where am I erring in the methodology, and how's this relate to the issues being discussed?

Nothing else really matters since the bounds of travel haven't been dictated by
 
Couple of little things.

Rear
The 4 link rear doesnt bind much. So while maxing out your rear suspension, make sure to control the extension side. You already know your shock is going to be around 31". So with a large strap dont let it exceed that for accuracy, as the angle changes your clearances on the stuffed side. After extending bumstops so tire clears. Then find your shock compression measurement and MINUS 1".

Front
You have flexi coils, they will not fall out. So just measure for compression in the front as you have the back The superflex arms will give you full cycle. The front bumpstops are a tricky 1.
 
3 year's later.
How are those Slinky's working out?
What is you hub to fender height?
Did you get those shocks & bumpstops figured out?
 
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