Four Link Frnt End
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The 70% number comes from a diagnosis that keeps squat value the same as the suspension cycles. There was a really good thread that broke it down in pirate some time back, strange rover was the one that explained it very well with pictures. I'll see if I can track it down.
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Mace said:
this truck is trailer queen no street for her except maybe tellico or nataral bridge driving to trail head. besides wierd brakeing what other downfalls to wristed verses 3 link
They typically experience odd jacking tendencies with power. Say you are climbing a hill slowly, if you stap the pedal there is the opportunity to actually rotate the truck and do a ballernia move 
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sounds more and more that i should stick to the origanal plan and stop trying to do something different just so it looks cool. i am not trying to be a pioneer here hell i do not have the brains to do that.
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okay (updated pics) not done yet but a little closer lets remember this is my build thread too
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more updates
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Eskimo
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Bustanutley nailed the 70% "rule".. it HELPS to keep your AS consistent through the suspension cycling. If you're shooting for, say, 100% AS at ride height, what good is it if it rises to 125% when the axle droops 2"? it will just push further and further away.
Spending some time with the 4-link calc is SUCH an easy way to see what each little change can do, and how it will perform through a vertical range... then you just need to go see if the junk will fit!
Hey Dacicci - Did you get the "It's a Rock" stickers from Moorefield?
Spending some time with the 4-link calc is SUCH an easy way to see what each little change can do, and how it will perform through a vertical range... then you just need to go see if the junk will fit!
Hey Dacicci - Did you get the "It's a Rock" stickers from Moorefield?
That the thing, I can see that if you have an adjustable ride height. However, most rigs don't, and AS is going to increase when you drive up a hill. So basically, on a crawler, the 70% rule kinda has no meaning..Eskimo said:Bustanutley nailed the 70% "rule".. it HELPS to keep your AS consistent through the suspension cycling. If you're shooting for, say, 100% AS at ride height, what good is it if it rises to 125% when the axle droops 2"? it will just push further and further away.
Spending some time with the 4-link calc is SUCH an easy way to see what each little change can do, and how it will perform through a vertical range... then you just need to go see if the junk will fit!
Hey Dacicci - Did you get the "It's a Rock" stickers from Moorefield?
Dacicci, Love to see crawlers with a 2F
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Eskimo said:Bustanutley nailed the 70% "rule".. it HELPS to keep your AS consistent through the suspension cycling. If you're shooting for, say, 100% AS at ride height, what good is it if it rises to 125% when the axle droops 2"? it will just push further and further away.
Spending some time with the 4-link calc is SUCH an easy way to see what each little change can do, and how it will perform through a vertical range... then you just need to go see if the junk will fit!
Hey Dacicci - Did you get the "It's a Rock" stickers from Moorefield?
i think so i, got those at tellico from frymans buddy he has a pretty nice rv with full bar and plent of moonshine.
on the 2f note mine runs great. with my dui and motocraft 2150. no offense to anyone who changes it, but i don't like it when you see a buggy that is just a cruiser hood and some badges, and no cruiser. i have a full cruiser driveline + toybox. minus the weight of the 2f it is great. and i do not care about the weight anyway after all this is a trail truck.
dacicci said:i think so i, got those at tellico from frymans buddy he has a pretty nice rv with full bar and plent of moonshine.
on the 2f note mine runs great. with my dui and motocraft 2150. no offense to anyone who changes it, but i don't like it when you see a buggy that is just a cruiser hood and some badges, and no cruiser. i have a full cruiser driveline + toybox. minus the weight of the 2f it is great. and i do not care about the weight anyway after all this is a trail truck.
Awesome Brotha...I like Built cruisers that still use cruiser parts besides the hood.
dacicci said:i do not care about the weight anyway after all this is a trail truck.
Not trying to bust your ballz, but this statrment is bassakwards.
I also dig Hardcore rigs with 2Fs/Fs
Eskimo
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dacicci said:
Yup, that would be him.. LOL His buggy is for sale, BTW, but he wants ALOT for it.
Back on topic though,
Mace, I can see your point about AS increasing, BUT... let's say you're at 75% AS static, and because you did your stuff this way, you stay +/- 10% through the range of motion. Now you're throttling up a hill, and your effective AS is now closer to say 100%.. OK, but you're gonn stay between 90-110% AS.
BUT, you're still gonna stay closer to that 100% number than someone whose AS numbers vary through the travel.. they will just end up with that much higher of an AS number and possibly start hopping, because theirs could vary to as high as 150% or more..
I'll take consistant. You can't possibly tune for something that varies so widely.. It's like trying to setup a race car's suspension, and charging the shocks with air..
Let me understand...
That 70% you are talking about is the ratio between the upper and the lower link? So I have to make a lower link lthe 70§% longer than the upper, isn't it? And this is important or is just "better" to do it in this way...?
Forgive me, but I'm going to start the works in a few days and I want to be sure of what I'll do!
Francesco
That 70% you are talking about is the ratio between the upper and the lower link? So I have to make a lower link lthe 70§% longer than the upper, isn't it? And this is important or is just "better" to do it in this way...?
Forgive me, but I'm going to start the works in a few days and I want to be sure of what I'll do!
Francesco
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bustanutley said:Not trying to bust your ballz, but this statrment is bassakwards.
I also dig Hardcore rigs with 2Fs/Fs
maybe your and my definition of trail truck differ a little. my idea of a trail truck is just as the statement says a (truck that goes on the trail) for fun. what i am trying to say is not a comp truck. not using the lightest fastest parts out their trying to maximise the vehicle to go as fast as possible up a cliff. i got marlins 4;70's in a toybox for crying out loud thats pretty slow. do not get me wrong i want a truck that will perform well. But on a very differnt way then a comp rig. i am not worried about weight all that much, i would much rather use a motor that is reliable and simple, than light and high tech. and cruiser motors are just cool. what other motor can sit in a ditch for 10 years, trow a starter on ot and it fires right up. this is what my 40 looked like when i started. after shots just look at post #49 nad #50
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just 4 your pleaser
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now thats hardcore
