Ford Ranger 60/40 Bench seats into a first-gen pickup.

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Just finished wrapping up my latest project, and I thought I'd share the details.

The charm of the racing buckets in my truck wore out pretty quickly. They sat low, were uncomfortable, messed with my bad knee, and they just took up too much space for their own good. I also felt contrary to the notion: I think that trucks need a good bench seat. My dad's '03 Ranger has this nice split-bench setup, with a center console that folded down from the middle seat. Pretty sweet setup, if you ask me.

According to my measurements, It looked like they would fit. I had 49" of useable space door-to-door, and these seets were 47", the headrests came to the same height, and the seats themselves were the same depth as the APC buckets they replaced.


So, for the last couple weeks, I'd spent alot of time on the phone tracking down what turned out to be the only set of this style in the Northbay. Out of a 2003 Ranger 2-door extra-cab, and were cloth (very important to me).
So I drove out to Rancho Cordova to collect them.
On the retun leg through Calistoga, just five miles from home, my water pump bearing gave out pulling up Petrified Forest grade - wonderful.
I had no idea what it was at first, just a high temp guage, some steam and a puddle, but emptying my water bottle from the cab of my truck into the radiator answered my question: water was literally gushing out of the pump assembly.

So, after the tow home, I borrowed my sister's Matricx, grabbed some coolant and a new pump, quickly did the repair, and then returned to the seats.
Luckily it was an easy fix!

Once that was done, I yanked out the old buckets. I'd forgotten that when I'd installed them, I used hardware that fell under the technical term "whatever". That was the most frustrating part of the install.

Looking at the seats themselves, the mouning hardware actually looked just like the underside of OEM seats for my truck, just a little taller. They measured up about right, so, no additional cutting required. Just a little persuasion with a cobalt drill bit for some new bolt holes.

THIS time, I acutally picked up exactly what I needed for the install hardware-wise, I used M8X10 hardened steel bolts with 2 washers, 2 lock washers, a nut and a nylock, one of each washer on each side, a nut to fasten, and the nylock as protection from vibration.
The install took maybe fourty minutes one I got rolling, and it came out really really clean.

And of course, for your entertainment pleasure, some pictures:

This morning. The console is folded down, and I have a book on it.
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With the console folded up for "bench seat mode":
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An establishing shot of the overall prodcut:
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And a shot from the driver's seat, as the driver would see:
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Bottom line: These seats are great, they put me at a better angle pedals-wise, and they ride so much more comfortably. They are much taller, though, which is fine with me, since I'm short.
They're much firmer and considerably more "truck-like" than the racing buckets, and the center console is incredibly handy.

Bottom line: Do Ranger sets fit into a 79-83 Mini?
Yes.
Are they easy to install:
very yes.
Do they work?
I believe they do, and as long as you're either short, or able to weld and lower them, or fab up a mounting assembly for them, they'll actually work well. Visibility is greatly improved (what blind spots?), ride quality is the best I've had in this truck, and the angles on the pedals are much, much better than either previous set I've had in this truck. I would do this mod again.
 
Sounds sweet. How's the cargo space behind them and were you able to retain the adjustment rails?
 
Sounds sweet. How's the cargo space behind them and were you able to retain the adjustment rails?

Yeah, the cargo space is great, I actually managed to pack my tools into a .50 Caliber ammo can behind the driver's seat, and there's still room to spare for a coat or two, or my rifle.

I kept the Ford seat rails, and they work alot better than the APC rails in my old seats, but they make the seats ride a bit high. I'm sure that if you wanted to change them, and had fabrication skills, it wouldn't be an issue, but me being only 5'9" and skilled only at butchering and literary analysis (the two are so similar at times) I decided it was fine.
 
With an '02 SC Taco - that I hate the OEM bench - this brings to mind a fix.
Thanks!
 
With an '02 SC Taco - that I hate the OEM bench - this brings to mind a fix.
Thanks!

Proportianlly speaking, single-cab first-gen Tacos and single-cab first-gen minis are very very similar. I've done a few side-by-sides, and it seems that Toyota USA really tried to conjur similarity between the two. I'm sure it'll work, but may take some playing.

Also, to pass along, Ferd doesn't sell teir seats as intact units, you can either buy the piecemeal (totalling up to over 600 bucks :eek:) or find them at a wrecker. I ended up sourcing them from a wrecker with a showroom, that stocks their own hardware, so they weren't as mangled as you would find at a pick-n-pull. I paid 200 for them as a unit.

Good luck!
 
I like them! Although I'm pretty sure the new to me '82 Toyota has the stock seats and they seem too high for me. I've hit my head several times getting in but these trucks are anything but big. Whatever I do they would need to be lowered. I'd love to have the setup with the center fold on console.
 
I like them! Although I'm pretty sure the new to me '82 Toyota has the stock seats and they seem too high for me. I've hit my head several times getting in but these trucks are anything but big. Whatever I do they would need to be lowered. I'd love to have the setup with the center fold on console.

Thanks!

Unless you're pretty tall, you shouldn't be bumping your head with stocker seats. My original seats were pretty low, and small. (Imagine plus-sized late-model 40-series rear fold-down seats).

It's also funny that you say they are anything but big: you're absolutely right, but somehow, once you get yourself plugged in, it feels like you have acres of space. Have you noticed that yet? I can't describe it. My dad's Ranger (extra cab) feels more crowded inside - I feel like Toyota can do more with less space than any other manufacturer.

Now, if you want a cramped interior, the new Jeep Wrangers are the most crowded vehicle I've ever ridden in - and my first car was a '78 Corolla!
 
Well, these are grey bucket seats with a adjustable headrest. They may be different but are similair to other first gens I've seen I believe. I have a '82, non-tilt and I say this because not sure when tilts were put in. Anyways, I can barely get my leg between the seat and stock steering wheel, and I'm anything but a huge guy. I'm just not sure what I have but it's a tight fit. I normally sit low in most all trucks and cars and this one I'm at the roof lol. This is my first Toyota so I'm really new, got 7 days ago.
 
daddy likee.

my seats are getting pretty ratty, and i'm getting tired of prying my swamp-ass out of them. i was going to put a pair of mid-'80's mercedes seats in, but their mounting system is unbelievably complicated. thanks for posting up such a great alternative.
 
Well, these are grey bucket seats with a adjustable headrest. They may be different but are similair to other first gens I've seen I believe. I have a '82, non-tilt and I say this because not sure when tilts were put in. Anyways, I can barely get my leg between the seat and stock steering wheel, and I'm anything but a huge guy. I'm just not sure what I have but it's a tight fit. I normally sit low in most all trucks and cars and this one I'm at the roof lol. This is my first Toyota so I'm really new, got 7 days ago.

Those were my original seats, too. PO lost the headrests decades ago, for all I know, and carriage bolts replaced them. Some of the more miserable seats I've ridden in, but that's what happens with 30 years.
Tilt column was critical for me in this mod. A fixed column would have made these new seats horrible!
Congrats on the new purchase! First Gens are the way to go, they're the most honest simple truck I've seen.

Good job Chuck

Thanks man, still not as cool as an axe and hi-lift holder built into my rear fenders though! :cheers:

daddy likee.

my seats are getting pretty ratty, and i'm getting tired of prying my swamp-ass out of them. i was going to put a pair of mid-'80's mercedes seats in, but their mounting system is unbelievably complicated. thanks for posting up such a great alternative.

I looked into the 'Benz solution, too, because my old man swore up and down on a stack of Bibles on the quality, but we all know that Mercedes-Benz is just a fancible word for "Snobbery".

As to the Ford idea, the simple truth is that Ford has the best rep for quality in domestic trucks. My Dad's 2003 Ranger's pushing 170K, still on the facotry water pump, seats still feel as good as the day it came home. My Mom's 2001 F-150's in great shape, and has been holding out better than any other of the "turdbody" generation.

This concludes my first week with the seats. After the install, I finally got to installing my JVC head unit and speakers (pics to come on my main page) These seats gave me just enough room to mount the unit on the transmission hump, just after the t-case shifter, so the volume knob is just below the tranny shift tower, and an easy reach from shifting to fiddling with the volume.

The :princess: says she likes the seats better, and I do too, because I can fold that armrest up, and she can lean on me on the long drives (definite plus).

Best of all, the T-case shifter isn't digging into my bad knee anymore!
definitely worth the time and effort.
 
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mercedes do make a solid product not just "car snobbery", i've owned a 240D, a 300D and a 350SDL, all really solid cars. they just like to to things differently, which makes it somewhat difficult to adapt their stuff to other makes. i love their seats, but the pia factor to put them in was just too high.
 
mercedes do make a solid product not just "car snobbery", i've owned a 240D, a 300D and a 350SDL, all really solid cars. they just like to to things differently, which makes it somewhat difficult to adapt their stuff to other makes. i love their seats, but the pia factor to put them in was just too high.

I agree, they do make a solid car, or at least did, I stopped trusting them once they started playing in the same sandbox as Chrysler. (Seriously, an assembly plant in Alabama?)

I think my "snobbery" bit was a reference to the fact that people around here think that they're the hottest thing in town since they have some overpriced car they treat like the next asinine name-brand accessory.
It's not the car, it's the sheeple.
 

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