FJ40 OEM power steering

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After action report

Three days of driving the FJ40 with the OEM power steering, figured I'd give my report:

No issues with the install itself, other than as noted above.

I followed the "bleed with engine off" protocol, steering wheel lock to lock about a bazillion times (actually, about 45 times, in my case), which gave me a blister, but had no burps or funny noises from the PS, so it works.

I did get a few significant "spews" of PS fluid during the process, when air burped, so it might be worthwhile to rig a "chimney" or something to keep the PS fluid in the reservoir – I wound up going to the wand wash, and washing the engine.:doh:

The return line and fitting I fabbed worked like a champ, so that problem is solved. It is worthwhile to keep in mind the brakeline used is 8mm OD, so you need to finagle a bit to match the 10mm hose used elsewhere. I machined an 8mm to 10mm adapter, there are other ways, including commercially available adapters.

I did use hydraulic hose, rather than oil line hose, for the return lines. It is significantly more durable, IMHO. Hose rated for 250PSI is plenty strong for the return side, which is under minimal pressure. Interestingly enough, the lower pressure hydraulic hose is less expensive than the oil line hose sold by the local auto parts stores.

As for the driving, I found I can now keep up with freeway traffic at 60-65mph, without fear. My worn manual steering box introduced a small amount of backlash into the steering, which always seems magnified at highway speeds.

I have BFG 33x9.5R15 AT/KO tires, and would consider these to be near the limit for OEM PS – it doesn’t give a lot of assist, but you can turn the wheel when sitting still, without straining.

All in all, going the OEM PS route was expensive (about $1200), doesn’t give the strongest or most durable PS, and doesn’t simplify the steering mechanism like an FJ60 or Scout box would.

OTOH, it does have that OEM cachet, so it was worthwhile.:grinpimp:

Kirk
 
O.K. Landpimp I bought a gearbox off ebay which I thought was mini-truck and looks like mini-truck box, but none of the return line fittings fit because they were too big, like your picture shows..

So what your saying someone put oem fj40 powersteering guts into a mini-truck casting, or mini-truck guts into a fj40 oem casting???

And also would this be a good thing or bad thing??



I eventually went to a local hose compnay that carried metric and they put this together for me. Works great and no leaks. But incase I do have problems do you know where to get a return nipple for my gearbox??


Thanks


-my64fj40
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my64fj40 said:
O.K. Landpimp I bought a gearbox off ebay which I thought was mini-truck and looks like mini-truck box, but none of the return line fittings fit because they were too big, like your picture shows..

So what your saying someone put oem fj40 powersteering guts into a mini-truck casting, or mini-truck guts into a fj40 oem casting???

And also would this be a good thing or bad thing??



I eventually went to a local hose compnay that carried metric and they put this together for me. Works great and no leaks. But incase I do have problems do you know where to get a return nipple for my gearbox??


Thanks


-my64fj40

Measure the ID of the return fitting hole in the casing, across the top of the threads - if it is 12mm in diameter, then you have one of the "odd ball" mini-truck boxes that takes the M14x1.5 fitting, just like mine.

I consider it a good thing, because it "matches" the OEM box on the return fitting.

Kirk
 
my64fj40 said:
I eventually went to a local hose compnay that carried metric and they put this together for me. Works great and no leaks. But incase I do have problems do you know where to get a return nipple for my gearbox??



Right back to that local hose company...


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I had the same problem finding the return fitting when I bought my OEM gearbox and pump. I found out that the '79 had the smaller fitting for the return line and the '80 and above had the larger fitting. I spent 3 months trying to find someone who either knew what I needed, had what I needed, or could make what I needed. I finally found that Downey had a couple of adapters that converted the fitting on the box to a standard NPT thread and then another adapter that converted it to a "barbed" fitting to attach a hose to. It worked fine and I have had no problems since.

Just thought I'd put in my 2 cents worth...
 
Well, I have something to add to this thread.

Purchased a mini-truck PS box and an OEM FJ40 box casting a while back, got them assembled, gathered the other OEM parts, and put it all in over the 4th of July weekend. A :banana: :banana: :banana: job - until I got to the end!

I had purchased the mini-truck return fitting from the local Toyota dealership, and received the short, straight tube with the silver inverted flare nut, as pictured above, in this thread.

It was then that I found that the mini-truck box I had purchased had had FJ40 guts! It need the unobtanium FJ40 return line. Aw, crap! So close...

What to do? I found this thread, and digested its contents, and then proceeded to figure out that the FJ40 return hole is M14x1.5 threaded. Nobody local had the required inverted flare nut, and online searches turned up nothing!

With that knowledge, and from measurements on the old brass seat, I determined that I needed an 5/16 (actually, 8mm) return line with a 45 degree seat. That's a common brake line size, hmmm....:idea:

I also found a Dorman oil drain plug in M14x1.5 - apparently there are dozens of cars with this size drain plug.

Here's the raw materials:

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Indicate the plug in the lathe:

Indicate_on_lathe.jpg


Face and center drill:

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Drill through with 1/4 inch drill, followed by 5/16, followed by 21/64:

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Turn the seat for the flare on the nut at 45 degrees (90 degrees included angle):

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Remove the flange with a file (faster than setting up the milling machine), and here's the completed inverted flare nut and the tube:

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Couple seconds with the tubing bender and a little fit'n'try on the truck, and here's the completed product:

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Total elapsed time - 45 minutes. Total cost - under $5. Satisfaction - priceless!:cool:

Here's the competed installation:

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We'll get her buttoned up, and the PS purged on Sunday:

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:cheers:

Kirk
Hi Kirk, Helpful, thanks for posting this, ironically doing the sams
As you did same weekend, 15 years later! Was hoping to find a thread where they were sold, guess ill
Be making them too which is more time more fun :)
 
Hi Kirk, Helpful, thanks for posting this, ironically doing the sams
As you did same weekend, 15 years later! Was hoping to find a thread where they were sold, guess ill
Be making them too which is more time more fun :)




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