Ethanol free fuel

[slipkid13]

I've seen a few studies that say less than a 1/4 gallon of the previous fill up octane selection makes it into your fill.

Maybe. I have no actual info then my own assessment. Unless all the gas is draining back into the underground tanks, I just figured that all the hoses to pump it to your tank must hold a couple of gallons. I will have to look that up, hopefully you are correct.

My bike is European and it seems to respond better to clear gas. As far I know they don't use ethanol in Europe and the ethanol here has destroyed my gas gauge float system since the manufacture didn't account for American gas.

 

[Tex68w]

Maybe. I have no actual info then my own assessment. Unless all the gas is draining back into the underground tanks, I just figured that all the hoses to pump it to your tank must hold a couple of gallons. I will have to look that up, hopefully you are correct.

My bike is European and it seems to respond better to clear gas. As far I know they don't use ethanol in Europe and the ethanol here has destroyed my gas gauge float system since the manufacture didn't account for American gas.

I buy ethanol free when it's available but that's not often unless I am near a Buccee's lol. I run the fuel out of my bikes if they are going to sit more than a month but I haven't had an issue from fuel in over a decade. BIL just had his truck screwed up when the fuel resupllier at a local filling station put diesel in the gas tanks and gas in the diesel, needless to say they screwed a lot of people before it was caught.

 

[stonepa]

I spend zero time worrying about it. Ethanol, no ethanol, zero concern of mine. Truck runs fine either way.

 

[AnyMal]

Ive been on the hunt for getting non ethanol into my routine here in N Austin.
Seems to be either Murphys or Sunoco but i haven't tried either yet.

I did switch from Shell to Chevron out of convenience and proximity to my house and have noticed an improvement in MPG.
It sounds like it could be attributed to less ethanol. Does anyone know if there are any known differences here?

In Houston, i used only shell in my turbo cars and I perceived them to produce more power. Completely anecdotal though as i did no real A/B testing.

I wouldn't mind getting more range.

 

[bloc]

Maybe. I have no actual info then my own assessment. Unless all the gas is draining back into the underground tanks, I just figured that all the hoses to pump it to your tank must hold a couple of gallons. I will have to look that up, hopefully you are correct.

My bike is European and it seems to respond better to clear gas. As far I know they don't use ethanol in Europe and the ethanol here has destroyed my gas gauge float system since the manufacture didn't account for American gas.

Ducati?

In multi-fuel pumps the switch between fuel types is done a few feet before the flexible line hooked up to the nozzle. Each has its own pump and suction line from its respective tank. So the only mixing is done in the flexible hose and vertical pipe to it from the pumps.

 

[slipkid13]

Ducati?

In multi-fuel pumps the switch between fuel types is done a few feet before the flexible line hooked up to the nozzle. Each has its own pump and suction line from its respective tank. So the only mixing is done in the flexible hose and vertical pipe to it from the pumps.

Aprilia. Most of the fuel gage floats fail because of ethanol. I don't really care because a fuel gage on a bike is basically useless. BUT, being Aprilia it could be Aprilia or the ethanol, you never can know...

 

[bloc]

Aprilia. Most of the fuel gage floats fail because of ethanol. I don't really care because a fuel gage on a bike is basically useless. BUT, being Aprilia it could be Aprilia or the ethanol, you never can know...

I only asked because my understanding is ducatis have the same issue for the same reason. Including the last part about you never can know.. hah.

 

[4wheelgreg]

Problem also is Big Oil love hate relation ship with Ethanol is a cheap way to raise octane rating , Its mostly plastic and rubber components that are that problem and if you leave the fuel sit phase separation , maybe concern since its hydroscopic , absorbs water when it can , especially in tanks and being transferred to a staton .
I think base blend gas is 85 the and ethanol is 113 , 10% increases 2 points makes it 87 and so on 15% makes base 88 octane … The higher the rating the more ethanol .
Its not worth the cost to make blended fuel , its become agricultural welfare and means to make deals , pay for votes … I have a uncle in IOWA and Ethanol gas is readily available and so is E-0 ethanol free gas and farmers won‘t use it cost to much to repair the damage blended fuel does to equipment … Allways says stuff is for the city folks

 

[Adrenaline6]

The problem in my neighborhood is that the ethanol free is always gone. If you don't go early in the morning or know when the tanker gets in to refill, you are usually out of luck. The yard equipment and boat guys buy it all up the next morning as soon as it comes in.

 

[slipkid13]

I only asked because my understanding is ducatis have the same issue for the same reason. Including the last part about you never can know.. hah.

Yup, Ducati and Aprilia both had issues with ethanol and plastic tanks/lines. Plus the old "it was built in Italy" so you can never really know.

 

[Lester did that]

The problem in my neighborhood is that the ethanol free is always gone. If you don't go early in the morning or know when the tanker gets in to refill, you are usually out of luck. The yard equipment and boat guys buy it all up the next morning as soon as it comes in.

That about sums it up. If engine maintenance is top priority then you will get non ethanol if you can. If you know it will sit around for three months or more ethanol is rather scary for long term damage. On a normal car that fills up once a week you are burning it up fast enough that it doesn't sit around long enough to age separate and do it's chemistry thing which rots rubber and plastic. (At least not to a point where the average driver will notice. They sell it after 4-6 years and don't have the where with all to notice that they are replacing hoses and pumps more today than the 10 year old truck they had back in 1995.) So it works great for the industry. Boost octane, green image, burn more gas. This might bore some folks but if you go back and look at the price of Corn before and after ethanol became standard it's shocking. The grain markets just crashed and America was sitting on a glut of Corn. Even if we produce more than we can eat or export we now can just literally burn the rest in our gas and someone makes a huge profit. I still love capitalism! ha

 

[Adrenaline6]

That about sums it up. If engine maintenance is top priority then you will get non ethanol if you can. If you know it will sit around for three months or more ethanol is rather scary for long term damage. On a normal car that fills up once a week you are burning it up fast enough that it doesn't sit around long enough to age separate and do it's chemistry thing which rots rubber and plastic. (At least not to a point where the average driver will notice. They sell it after 4-6 years and don't have the where with all to notice that they are replacing hoses and pumps more today than the 10 year old truck they had back in 1995.) So it works great for the industry. Boost octane, green image, burn more gas. This might bore some folks but if you go back and look at the price of Corn before and after ethanol became standard it's shocking. The grain markets just crashed and America was sitting on a glut of Corn. Even if we produce more than we can eat or export we now can just literally burn the rest in our gas and someone makes a huge profit. I still love capitalism! ha

Except it's not really capitalism. It's government subsidized.