Eastern Sierras, Coyote Plateau 7/20-24

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Friends, the plateau is wide open! Let's plan this thing!

For a bit of temptation... this was the view from our campsite last year... We won't have the lake this year due to drier conditions but the picture sure is nice!

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Well with the major surgery about to happen to Mudhorn (fj60) it will stay home. My wife can't go so it will be me and my 3 boys. I might bring my baby girl but am on the fence there.

On a side note, I did attend the May 23rd Forest Service call. The forest service flat out said making the area more accessible will make more problems but still wants to do it. I think they are overreacting to one rainy year but that's just me. They want to close off roads they casually deem illegal even though if you look at satellite imagery they have been there forever. Go figure. But anyway, let's get up there and enjoy it why it's still nice and hard to get to!

I think with the dates we have we might see people when we get there Saturday but they will likely filter out Sunday leaving the area to us the rest of the time.

Are others bringing kids and if so are you brining bikes? The camp area is nice for them to ride around but if only my kids have them it might not make sense for me to bring them.

General things to remember:
- This is remote camping to prepare to be totally self sufficient.
- Comms: Same as usual, GMRS 22, CB 22, FRS 22, or HAM 146.490. I haven't used a CB in years so please post up if that's what you'll bring so I can bring my spare. For truck to truck GMRS / FRS22 works well if you don't have HAM.
- Restring your fishing poles, 2lb test is good. Trout like spotted spinner lures.
- Please be aware of elevation. we will be camping at 9,600'. Hidden / Baker lakes we will see 11,000'. If we drive over towards the west we will get close to 13,000'.
- Hydration, kids get dehydrated much more quickly at elevation than we adults do. I recommend something like Prime sticks you can put into water bottles. I have brought lots of bottles of stuff in the past but they always seem to get abandoned half full.
- The camp site is very mild and well wind protected but at these elevations best to be ready. An errant rain can pass through.
- No one on this forum will have issues getting there but if you have a friend who wants to come along (which is totally cool) just make sure their rig is up for it. AWD vehicles (Subarus) routinely overheat and take body damage. If they absolutely insist on going we will put them last in line so they can turn back when the going gets too tough. The vehicle needs 4low and legit off road tires to really be considered adequate and reliable. Make them aware of the elevation.
- Although reports are things are dry we are going earlier than usual so could encounter bugs. Hiking boots / socks can protect you from the ankle biters, spray, etc... for the others.
- There could be opportunities for some target shooting so plan accordingly if you are into that.
- Bathing suits and water shoes can be good for the hike to Hidden / Baker lake. They are next to each other (Baker spills into Hidden....) Hidden has a nice knee high wading area if it's full enough.

Plan is as follows:
Saturday: Since only Phulcrum is meeting us on the way up we will do a rolling start at the I76 on ramp around 8AM. I will be towing so speeds will not be scorching though the mid day temps might be. If anyone wants to just get there, go for it, we'll see you at the camp spot which I will describe below. We will make a lunch / gas stop in Adelanto (quick) and keep forward progress. One thing to note is that while it's 5 hours to Bishop, it's another 1.5-2 to air down and get to camp. Adding stops for more gas and supplies and you have us getting to camp around 3-4PM. Dinner, let's make it easy, burgers or whatever you desire.

Sunday: Day trip to Funnel Lake. We haven't been there in years and the trail to it is fun / scenic. While the odds of catching fish hover just over zero it's a great place to have lunch and let the kids practice casting. There are some short cool hikes in the vicinity. Dinner: Chili cook off! Bring it!

Monday: Explore the plateau. We always say we are going to do this and never do so let's map it out. Who knows, we might find a better place to camp. Dinner: Burritos / Mexican

Tuesday: Hike and fish at Hidden or Baker Lakes. Dinner: Steaks and taters.

Wednesday: Quick breakfast and hit the road to home!





- Elripster and 4 kids in Rathtar the 80
- Butch, dad of Elripster in his GX with Grey Poupon
- Phulcrum + boy
- Raptorpat + 2 boys
- Friend of Raptorpat + 2 boys.
- Loober + boy, Friday to Monday
- Friends from scouts and their boy


Where we camp:
Finding camp is quite easy. If you plan to head up there before the group, just Google maps to funnel lake. Once you are on the plateau, you will make a right hand turn (per the picture it's your first right) where the pin is dropped instead of going all the way into Funnel. We camp on the far end (North end).

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Hoping to make this trip, looks like the road is open at the moment, however there is an Environmental Assessment in the works that has the potential for an "no alternative" option in the future if negative opinions are submitted in the process. These Assessments are usually the opportunity for environmental opponents to make comments in opposition to prevent motorized vehicles on public lands based on potential or perceived impacts. From the website, "Project timeline consists of public scoping and comment period for a draft Environmental Assessment, an objection period, with a final decision expected in late October 2024." Hope this assessment is well received by the various groups or the roads are subject to closure like many others.

 
Darn. So basically they will make it accessible to all, bring in loads of crowds, and then probably use the resultant wear and tear to close it. I guess we better enjoy it while we can the way it is.

Every year we go we usually hear from our old friend about what a "s*** show" it is up there but instead find the place pristine. I'd sure like to dig into the studies and see how they were done.



Frank
 
Isn't that the weekend of the Big Bear trip too?
 
I cancelled the trip to Big Bear I was going to do.
 
Looks like we are getting a good group going, potentially 10 kids. Anyone else?
 
Yes, I am 95% going, but I would head up friday and leave Monday. Anyone else wanting to go up friday?
 
Yes, I am 95% going, but I would head up friday and leave Monday. Anyone else wanting to go up friday?
Awesome!

Frank
 
I am out for this one, we are taking a family vacation to the Bahamas over this week now. Bummed since it is one of my favorites.
 
Well Bahamas, that's pretty awesome.
 
What are the camp fire rules up there, are we bringing wood?
 
What are the camp fire rules up there, are we bringing wood?
Best info would be to contact USFS in Bishop. Don't quote me but I think fire restrictions just went into effect up that way. Fires burning in Monache right now.
 
Wow, what a trip! Well it was just as fun as ever!

Note: Leaving on a Saturday means no traffic on the way up and our campsite cleared out Sunday leaving the place to ourselves the rest of the week.

So this trip Claire couldn't make so I took all 4 kids up myself. Thanks to my dad for coming and helping out! I had my hands full.

Day 1: We met up and drove up. We ended up meeting Loober who was already there. We split into two groups since some of us were ready before others but were able to finally collect the whole group at the staging area and head up. I wasn't sure how the truck was going to do towing the adventure trailer. The 37's mean no more undergearing which I definitely missed (though do not miss the rest of the time...)
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Like magic, bam we are at the staging area. This little cutie was all about the adventure!
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It was windy!

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With everyone here we were ready to roll out. We had a nice collection of trucks. My 80, my dad's GX, Tim's FJ, Raptorpat's Raptor, his friends Tacoma, and our friends from scouts Rubicon.
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The road was in the best condition I have ever seen it. As an aside, it really made me wonder why all the hub bub from the Forest Service but that's another story.

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I was worried about pulling the adventure trailer up to Coyote. It's not all that heavy, 3000lb with a full water tank, but the tongue weight is almost 500lb, the truck's max. I use load leveling bars which I rolled the dice and left installed for the climb. I was ultimately glad I did as they reduce the squat quite a bit. One issue I did have is the rear tires rubbing on the sliders. I was able to adjust them at camp.

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Afternoon thunder was norm though we hardly got wet all week. However, it made for cool sounds and pictures.

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Tim's FJ had another right rear shock failure on the way up. This time it was different (shock ripping in half), the lower hoop failed. We realized the damage actually occurred this spring on the way back from our camp and shoot when the right rear tire came off on 76. As the truck ground to a halt it ground down the shock hoop and it was too weak to sustain the loads under droop. Anyway, we finally removed the jammed shock (between wheel and lower mount) and were on our way.



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The water crossings were in effect...



Hello plateau!!

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Setting up kept us busy but we did get a great picture of the moon on night one.

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The next morning...
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We were greeted by a beautiful day with very few bugs!

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Mascot truck was in effect.
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As was breakfast!
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We had a great turnout as far as kids. I think we had 10 in total. Raptorpat's camp became kid head quarters. Here is Brennan and Karleigh.
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Karleigh's first night was quite rough. She started moshing around the trailer around 11:30 PM and kept it up to around 2:30AM. I was beat but she was in good spirits.

The rig...

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This recharges my soul.


Day 1, we decided to head into Funnel Lake since we hadn't been there in ages.
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The trail in Funnel is fun. We stayed on the main trail vs. the more challenging one and it was good for all. Funnel was completely full. We let the kids get the fishing rigs set up and practice casting. Funnel shows no signs of fish. There is hardly a minnow.

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Karleigh and a shamless plug for the new Phalcon Dual Zone Fridge / Freezers!
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Some of our intrepid fisher kids up by Rocky Bottom lake which was also full.

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Garrett....
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My oldest Daniel...
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Grandpa and a pouty Karleigh

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37's just make the whole trail the line...



Heading back...
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This made Daniel's whole month.

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The clouds started to roll in and made for some awesome rumbling of thunder and pictures. We only saw a little rain but you could see elsewhere it was coming down.
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Rathtar...
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I didn't get a lot of pictures of Brennan. He was going mach 17 all weekend so I didn't get him often. However, here is Karleigh having a treat.

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I failed to get pics of dinner but it was awesome!

The next day we decided to hit up Baker Lake to do some fishing. Lake requires a 1.5 up hill hike to about 11,000'. Raptorpat letting the Raptor do it's thing and fly.


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Once there Garrett and the kids found a lot of these...
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And we all eventually followed Pat's lead and jumped in for a very cold but refreshing dunk.
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