E-Locker on 200

[Billfish]

Has anybody here fitted E-locker(s) to their 200? If so, how does it perform, how much did it cost and are you happy with the choice over air?

Thanks, and a Merry Christmas to all.

 

[OTEP]

Lockers are still available as OEM in Mid East spec Cruisers.

Is there an aftermarket kit already?

 

[bjowett]

I'm not aware of anyone that has tried, but it shouldn't be terribly difficult. If folks are really set on e-lockers, I could even build one for the front axle.

IMO, a couple of Torsens helical diffs would be awesome in the axles. Their one weekness would be handily taken care of by the traction control.

ARB has aftermarket lockers available.

 

[Narkhelek]

Anyone offering a Torsen diff option for the 200?

 

[bjowett]

Nothing that I am aware of at this point.

 

[Willy beamin]

What is the difference between a diff drop and a torsion diff drop?
Thanks

 

[Narkhelek]

We weren't discussing a diff drop just different types of front/rear differentials. A torsen differential is a super clever type of mechanical limited slip differential that doesn't require air pressure (such as an ARB) or electrical magnetic forces (such as an e-locker) to redistribute torque away from the slipping wheel nor does it require a clutch that will eventually wear out (such as a positraction).

As bjowett says above it would be the ultimate differential for our land cruisers as it doesn't require any kind of external actuator for it to work as it's purely mechanical. The only downside to a torsen is you can still loose torque to the grounded wheel if you have a wheel in the air. Fortunately, the LC's active traction control will apply brake to a wheel that is in the air automatically causing the torsen to redistribute torque to the grounded wheel. This would happen anyways with an open differential but the main difference here is the amount of torque redistributed in an open differential is only proportional to the amount of force being applied by the brake to the in the air wheel.
This can quickly cause over heating of the wheel system. With the torsen only a little bit of brake force is require to redistribute a much larger amount of torque to the grounded wheel.

 

[Willy beamin]

right on...you're a good sport... misread your question above...however you gave a great explanation for the subject at hand and for that i am more knowledgable
thank you kind sir

 

[Billfish]

forgot about this thread. 5 years now with Elockers. Regularly used, never a spot of bother. Happy as a the proverbial clam in clam heaven.

 

[Markuson]

We weren't discussing a diff drop just different types of front/rear differentials. A torsen differential is a super clever type of mechanical limited slip differential that doesn't require air pressure (such as an ARB) or electrical magnetic forces (such as an e-locker) to redistribute torque away from the slipping wheel nor does it require a clutch that will eventually wear out (such as a positraction).

As bjowett says above it would be the ultimate differential for our land cruisers as it doesn't require any kind of external actuator for it to work as it's purely mechanical. The only downside to a torsen is you can still loose torque to the grounded wheel if you have a wheel in the air. Fortunately, the LC's active traction control will apply brake to a wheel that is in the air automatically causing the torsen to redistribute torque to the grounded wheel. This would happen anyways with an open differential but the main difference here is the amount of torque redistributed in an open differential is only proportional to the amount of force being applied by the brake to the in the air wheel.
This can quickly cause over heating of the wheel system. With the torsen only a little bit of brake force is require to redistribute a much larger amount of torque to the grounded wheel.

Never even heard of that. Thank you for the explanation.

 

[ikeb]

Never even heard of that. Thank you for the explanation.

I watched a fantastic YouTube video explaining this a while back... If I could remember who it was, I'd post a link to it. It's a very, very clever gearing mechanism.

 

[bjowett]

Excellent description! The T3 Torsen from the Supra MK IV with 8.7" diff could possibly be adapted to the front diff, but it would require some work at significant expense. The factory clutch pack LSD from the 100 Series Land Cruiser can be used in the rear axle. Again, the traction control would help deal with its weakness.