AKA How to convert weld-on sliders to bolt on.
Rock sliders are an important part of body armor to protect your rocker panels and doors. You could just buy them and there are many vendors out there that make an excellent product, but this is ih8mud.com and over here we like to make things so that we can screw them up just the way we want so that we won’t have anybody else to blame. If you aren’t confident of your welding ability, then just buy them because you don’t want them to fall off and go through somebody’s wind shield. That could ruin their day. You can choose to either weld them directly to the frame or bolt them on using either the existing holes in the frame or drilling new ones. I chose to use the existing holes to bolt them on because I didn’t like the idea of welding or drilling on my frame while it is under warranty. I didn’t reinvent the wheel here and I looked at the bolt on sliders available from several vendors and they all use the same basic approach with some differences in details. The sliders are welded to a plate that is bolted to the frame.
When looking at the frame, the first thing you notice is the 4 large (17mm) rivet heads that secure the driveshaft bearing cross member to the frame. The plate needs to be drilled to clear the rivet heads (indicated by arrow heads on the first two pictures) so it will fit flat against the frame. The other noteworthy thing is that the front part of the frame is plated with gussets so that the surface is raised by 5 mm compared to the rest of the frame. A single long plate will not fit flat, so most vendors have used a separate plate for the front section.
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The pictures show the holes and rivets for the passenger side of the frame. The nice thing about the Tacoma frame is that the holes are the same on the driver’s side, so once you mark their location on one plate, you can drill both sides at one time. Some of the holes are used to mount Toyota parts, like wire junction boxes and clips that hold the brake lines and wire harness to the frame. There are two large rectangular holes and one large round hole (indicated by arrows in the first two pictures). The front cross member has a large rectangular hole (indicated by the two arrows underneath the frame. These holes will be used to mount the slider plate with ½ inch grade 8 bolts and nuts and they will use large (2 x 2) washers on the inside made from 3/16 steel strap.
1. The first step in fabricating the plate is to cut a piece of 3/16 plate that is 5 (or 6) inches wide that is 42 - 45 inches long. I used 5 inch x 42 inches because I found a piece that was 84 inches long in the remnant bin at my local steel supplier. I cut it in two to make the two 42 inches long section. The rear end of the plate ends at the beginning of the curved part of the frame where the frame goes over the rear axle. This is approximately 14 inches behind the rear rivet heads.
2. Locate the holes for the 4 rivet heads. Measure their location accurately and mark them on the plate and drill them. The rivet heads are 17 mm in diameter, so I used a ¾ inch (19 mm) Silver and Deming bit, but you could also use a hole saw. The rivet and hole locations are the same on the driver’s and passenger’s side, so you can drill both plates at the same time.
3. Place the plate on the passenger side and clamp in place. Then trace the location of all of the other holes. Some holes will only be used on the driver’s side, but you might as well drill them at the same time. Any empty hole can be used with a 3/8 inch grade 8 bolt to increase strength. You may also want to drill the holes after welding the sliders on to the plate because welding will warp the plate and this might require slotting of some of the holes. I drilled all of these holes ½ inch even though many of the frame holes are smaller than that. This gives some slop for warping of the plate during welding. Many vendors slot the holes. I ended up slotting the holes at the ends anyway because of warping. The ends of the plate at the bottom extend downward by about 1/8 inch after welding, so you might want to drill the holes at the end 1/8 inch higher to compensate.
4. Drill the holes in the bottom plate (not shown) for the bottom rivet head (19 mm) and the 10mm x 1.25 bolt that holds the cross member. I used a piece of ¼ inch x 2 inch wide strap that I had on my junk pile. Three inch wide would work better. This will be welded later to the vertical plate. If you are not going to drill any holes in the bottom of your frame, this piece only needs to be a few inches long so that it uses the bottom bolt to hold the plate on. The lower the amount of welding on the bottom of the plate, the less it will warp. Tack weld the bottom plate for now.
5. Make the front plate that will be bolted to the 2 inch long rectangular hole in the front crossmember. I used another piece of ¼ x 2 inch strap to extend from the bottom of the square hole in the crossmember. It is 7 inches long and will be trimmed after welding. I drilled two half inch holes spaced 1.5 inches apart for half inch grade 8 bolts. I used another 4 inch long piece of the ¼ x 2 inch strap for the inside of the hole and welded two grade 8 nuts on one side. This assembly can be inserted into the frame by the hole in the rear side of the cross member and moved with your finger to position it to insert the bolts from the outside. I bolted up the 7 inch piece and welded it to a 6 x 6 inch piece of 3/16 plate to form the front part of the bolt on plate as shown in picture 5.
Rock sliders are an important part of body armor to protect your rocker panels and doors. You could just buy them and there are many vendors out there that make an excellent product, but this is ih8mud.com and over here we like to make things so that we can screw them up just the way we want so that we won’t have anybody else to blame. If you aren’t confident of your welding ability, then just buy them because you don’t want them to fall off and go through somebody’s wind shield. That could ruin their day. You can choose to either weld them directly to the frame or bolt them on using either the existing holes in the frame or drilling new ones. I chose to use the existing holes to bolt them on because I didn’t like the idea of welding or drilling on my frame while it is under warranty. I didn’t reinvent the wheel here and I looked at the bolt on sliders available from several vendors and they all use the same basic approach with some differences in details. The sliders are welded to a plate that is bolted to the frame.
When looking at the frame, the first thing you notice is the 4 large (17mm) rivet heads that secure the driveshaft bearing cross member to the frame. The plate needs to be drilled to clear the rivet heads (indicated by arrow heads on the first two pictures) so it will fit flat against the frame. The other noteworthy thing is that the front part of the frame is plated with gussets so that the surface is raised by 5 mm compared to the rest of the frame. A single long plate will not fit flat, so most vendors have used a separate plate for the front section.
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The pictures show the holes and rivets for the passenger side of the frame. The nice thing about the Tacoma frame is that the holes are the same on the driver’s side, so once you mark their location on one plate, you can drill both sides at one time. Some of the holes are used to mount Toyota parts, like wire junction boxes and clips that hold the brake lines and wire harness to the frame. There are two large rectangular holes and one large round hole (indicated by arrows in the first two pictures). The front cross member has a large rectangular hole (indicated by the two arrows underneath the frame. These holes will be used to mount the slider plate with ½ inch grade 8 bolts and nuts and they will use large (2 x 2) washers on the inside made from 3/16 steel strap.
1. The first step in fabricating the plate is to cut a piece of 3/16 plate that is 5 (or 6) inches wide that is 42 - 45 inches long. I used 5 inch x 42 inches because I found a piece that was 84 inches long in the remnant bin at my local steel supplier. I cut it in two to make the two 42 inches long section. The rear end of the plate ends at the beginning of the curved part of the frame where the frame goes over the rear axle. This is approximately 14 inches behind the rear rivet heads.
2. Locate the holes for the 4 rivet heads. Measure their location accurately and mark them on the plate and drill them. The rivet heads are 17 mm in diameter, so I used a ¾ inch (19 mm) Silver and Deming bit, but you could also use a hole saw. The rivet and hole locations are the same on the driver’s and passenger’s side, so you can drill both plates at the same time.
3. Place the plate on the passenger side and clamp in place. Then trace the location of all of the other holes. Some holes will only be used on the driver’s side, but you might as well drill them at the same time. Any empty hole can be used with a 3/8 inch grade 8 bolt to increase strength. You may also want to drill the holes after welding the sliders on to the plate because welding will warp the plate and this might require slotting of some of the holes. I drilled all of these holes ½ inch even though many of the frame holes are smaller than that. This gives some slop for warping of the plate during welding. Many vendors slot the holes. I ended up slotting the holes at the ends anyway because of warping. The ends of the plate at the bottom extend downward by about 1/8 inch after welding, so you might want to drill the holes at the end 1/8 inch higher to compensate.
4. Drill the holes in the bottom plate (not shown) for the bottom rivet head (19 mm) and the 10mm x 1.25 bolt that holds the cross member. I used a piece of ¼ inch x 2 inch wide strap that I had on my junk pile. Three inch wide would work better. This will be welded later to the vertical plate. If you are not going to drill any holes in the bottom of your frame, this piece only needs to be a few inches long so that it uses the bottom bolt to hold the plate on. The lower the amount of welding on the bottom of the plate, the less it will warp. Tack weld the bottom plate for now.
5. Make the front plate that will be bolted to the 2 inch long rectangular hole in the front crossmember. I used another piece of ¼ x 2 inch strap to extend from the bottom of the square hole in the crossmember. It is 7 inches long and will be trimmed after welding. I drilled two half inch holes spaced 1.5 inches apart for half inch grade 8 bolts. I used another 4 inch long piece of the ¼ x 2 inch strap for the inside of the hole and welded two grade 8 nuts on one side. This assembly can be inserted into the frame by the hole in the rear side of the cross member and moved with your finger to position it to insert the bolts from the outside. I bolted up the 7 inch piece and welded it to a 6 x 6 inch piece of 3/16 plate to form the front part of the bolt on plate as shown in picture 5.
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