Couple of pics from last weekend's backcountry recovery

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Mark W

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I got a phone on Friday evening from one of my buddies. I had been unable to get away from work so he had gone out solo to take his daughter and another young friend out to fill their caribou tags. he was hunting one of our preferred areas about 50 miles from the road. With the three people in the '40 he was dragging my M416 along to carry gear and meat. We normally do not encourage anyone to tun solo out there, but he is one of the most experienced guys I know, and we know the area as well as we know our own backyards so there was no real trepidation. He had the satphone with him so that he could call for help in the event of a breakdown, which was the most like;y reason he would nee to call.

It is SOP in the Alaska Cruiser crew, when the call goes out that someone needs help. we all drop what we are doing, take off work and head out. Most of us have been on the receiving end at one point or the other over the years, so it is not really even a thing we remark on. It just gets done.

Anyway, the phone rang as I was working on an HZJ78 camper conversion belonging to one of my German stop in customers (There is apparently a circle of overlanders in Europe that have passed the word amongst themselves that I am the guy to see if they have a problem in Alaska).

My buddy had gotten crossed up climbing a bank on the Little Oshetna River and laid his rig on it's side in the water. no one was hurt, and they were removing gear to dry when he called, but he could not get it back on it's feet without help.

I made a few phone calls real quick and we wound up with three capable trail ready '80s and four experienced guys ready to head out first thing in the morning. the German tourists that were here wound up tagging along as well for their first off road use of their cruiser!

It was an uneventful 90 miles run to the trailhead from where we mustered in Palmer AK. We topped off fuel and headed in another 50 miles up the trail to where we needed to be. with a group like this, over these trails i have come to expect an day long average of about 5mph. That turned out to be pretty close for this trip too so it was getting into the evening before we reached to overturned rig and bored campers.

We had a couple of slightly boggy spots, a couple of steeper washed out hill climbs and a lot of easy water crossings (most under 3 feet deep, only a couple that approached 4 feet). There were a couple of times that our visitors were wondering what they had gotten themselves into... only 2 months into a 2 year trip through the Americas... but they learned fast and we watched them closely and all went smoothly.

It was a bit anti-climatic once we got there.... we pulled the rigs into position and had the '40 on it;s feet and out of the water in short order... It turned out handy for us that uor new German friends had come along. The extra winch turned out to be very handy in making a clean and simple extraction.

The day had turned to rain by the time we got there, so as soon as the rig was back on the trail, we all crawled into the roof top tents (and pop-up camper) and hit the sack.

Come 7 am or so we were awakened by the sound of the small block 400 in the 40 firing off. A couple of the guys had decided that they would get up at 6 am and drain and service it to get a jump on the day. other than a soaking wet interior and a shattered fiberglass lid, the rig was little the worse for wear.

The rest of the story is even more boring... ;) uneventful trip back to the road and down the highway

but fwiw, here's a few pics


A couple of Supercubs made low approaches over us to get a look
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Approaching the trailhead
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Bernd and Viola refused to show any hesitation and kept up fine as they tagged along
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Not a bad roll and not a bad bank... just bad combination and bad luck.
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Edit: I tried to embed a vid of the winch out, but did not manage to get it to play. :(


Mark...
 
Hi All:

Thanks for the post Mark!

This really shows why you should not go 'wheeling with only one rig.

I found it interesting that the '40 rolled but the trailer did not! :eek:

Glad you guys were able to help these folks out.

Regards,

Alan
 
It's nice to know someone always has your back. :beer: Seems to a 4x4 thing.

But do you really need to go 50 miles off road to find the boo?
 
Caribou move constantly. They live in particular types of terrain, moving in small bands or large herd depending on the time of year. At the moment the Nelchina Herd is not really grouped up very much and is not really in the areas closer to the road in any numbers. A *few* can be found in the more readily accessible areas, but every Tom Dick and Sally who can get away over the weekend on their ATV is 'hunting" there.

By going in further, they were assured of finding caribou and of finding enough to pick nice bulls instead of just whacking the first animal they saw.

Plus, all the weekend ATV hunters were miles and miles short of where they were so they avoided all the irritation of their noisy trail riding style of hunting.

Our primary moose hunting camp is about 60 miles in. Our secondary camp is another 30 or so. A combination of the terrain (rivers, forest, swamp and mountains) and the behavior of the animals as fall approaches tends to concentrate them in these area... which are also hard enough to reach for the average urban "hunter' that we have them mainly to ourselves. It is these first of these spots that they headed for on this trip. The caribou are denser there this time of year too.
If they had happened to run across a couple of bulls worth taking on the way in then they probably would have. And they probably still would have headed on further in just to enjoy being there. :) This was the first caribou hunt for both of the kids... It was/is about more than just killing the animals. ;)


Mark...
 
Hi All:

Thanks for the post Mark!

This really shows why you should not go 'wheeling with only one rig.

I found it interesting that the '40 rolled but the trailer did not! :eek:

Glad you guys were able to help these folks out.

Regards,

Alan


Kevin will go solo if I can not get away... I will go solo if he can not make it. But both of us prefer to go together for long exploration or hunting trips. the rest of the time we generally find that groups of 2-4 rigs are ideal.

The trailer has the original rotating lunette. the fact that is did not roll is just a demonstration of why it was so equipped. ;)


Mark...
 
good karma for you all!


and to think that some will argue that a swiveling lunette is not necessary...
 
This story reminds me why life is better in the west. People help each other. I'm please to hear that no one was hurt and that the rig came back to life the next day. Gonna try again on the extraction vid? Subscribed.....
 
It is a low quality video. shot with an Iphone I believe by Kevin's daughter. These three link, in order, should let you see it all.

Not a lot to learn from watching this. just a simple sideways pull off of front and rear corners to right the rig and hold it in place while a third line was hooked to the front to pull it forward. Then the rig was pulled with the two lines to the front to move it forward and sideways a bit, while the line on the back was used to prevent tipping until it was willing to stay upright.

In the first vid, you can see the strap used to connect the winch line to the rear gets caught under the tire... in the next shot it is free of the tire and the strap to a fourth rig that was used to anchor the tail end while the winch was re-rig is still attached (but not doing much).

What is not seen is the boulder at the front tire that we had to slide sideways across... we wet it so that the tire would slide instead of rolling odd the bead. the amount of sideways relocation achieved with the winches is not really obvious either.

In any case it was a simple, quick and easy winch out. Since we had rigs and winches to spare, we went ahead and used them all so as to ensure a clean operation with no undesired movement of the rig.

http://s5.photobucket.com/albums/y172/dopeyjoe/?action=view&current=IMG_0225.mp4
 
Thanks for posting the videos! Don't know if anyone's mentioned it, but in the 1st video as the rig comes down on all four tires, it still appears to be very unsteady due to the slope of the bank. That must have been close to the position when it rolled over. Now that's probably obvious to you veterans and the driver of the rig. But it didn't hit me until someone else was viewing the video with me and mentioned "Wow, it's easy to see why it rolled over - look at how it's setting when they pulled it back over!" Like you said in your caption of the overturned '40: "not a bad roll and not a bad bank ...just bad combination and bad luck" .

Thanks for sharing! Some pics are worth a thousand words, but a video is priceless:cheers:
 
THe approach to the bank was supposed to be nominally 90 degrees. What is not real evident is that the river (small as it is has a deepish hole right there and there are a couple of boulders/large rocks under the water not real noticeable from the action of the water, so hard to discern from the driver's seat.

He either caught a rear tire on one of them, or maybe the trailer. This caused him to shift sideways when the tires started spinning and I guess he very quickly got turned enough that he slipped further down the bank, turning more parallel and simply wound up steeper than the rig could take. Of curse it probably happened about as fast than you could read this.

In the first vid, it is only the winch cable keeping the rig from falling back over (mainly the front cable). That is why we had to attach the additional anchor line (strap) in order to loosen the rear winch rigging and get it out from under the tire. If we had just pulled forward and let the tire roll until the line came free, the sudden slack would have let the tail of the rig spin and flop back over, hitting the winch line with a shock when the slack was used up.

It was a mistake to allow the line and strap to get caught under the tire. Unfortunately the person on the back corner either did not notice or did not realize that it was a problem, and no one else noticed right away. Luckily this was a simple and easy operation so it was easy to address the problem. I still do not like seeing oversights like that... No never know when one will bite you on the ass. :(

Also not obvious in the first vid is that the right front tire is at a steep vertical section of bank. That is why we had to drag it sideways to get it on level ground as opposed to pulling it forward and letting it just ride up out of the water in a straight line (relative to the direction the rig was facing).


Mark...
 
what a great experience for the German tourists. Videos never really show the slopes well.
 

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