Ok, who all remembers the story on this one? This subject has come up in another group that wants to go out there for a trash cleanup, and I am just trying to reconstruct the facts. IIRC, about 5-10 years ago, the landowner (yes it is/was private property) went out and refurbished/remodeled the cabin/house out there, and actually was living in it for a while. Obviously, that didn't last too long, as it has always been abandoned every time I have been out there. Story was that the owner had put up wire gates and Keep Out signs on the trails where they crossed the property lines. I did actually find one of those signs while prowling around out there a few years ago. I'm sure that this was real popular with the Wheelers, as several trails intersect right at the Ovens, and there are no bypasses to connect them. I know it gets lots of traffic every weekend, and I have even seen guys drive their trail bikes inside the Ovens. Anyone know who owns it? John