I know there was a thread a little while back about coil spacers, but who makes or where can I get 2" coil spacers? What's the most that' is recommended w/o going to the full lift. I'm not weighing down my 80 too much, just want added looks and maybe run 295's or 305's.
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You can run those tire sizes with no rubbing and without spacers.
metaltechs are only for the front, right?
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I heard that 285's were the maximum size you could run w/o rubbing. Also, I will be wheeling it, and I was hoping to get a little more aggressive look from the spacers.
Somebody must know where I can get fronts and rears. I'd prefer 2" if possible, but if I cant find anything at all, I'll look at 1.5-2" range.
Somebody must know where I can get fronts and rears. I'd prefer 2" if possible, but if I cant find anything at all, I'll look at 1.5-2" range.
I will make you a really good deal on some 4" spacers, what is scrap metal going for these days?:whoops:
Crazy Japanese.
Crazy Japanese.
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I'd be interested in them, but I'm kind of concerned as to what my ride would be like and if this is okay for the stock springs to be under this kind of load. Also, would I have to do any other modifications to my suspension other than just the spacers? how about shocks or anything? I'm kindof a newbie to this stuff. thx. Yes, I'd be interested...
You want to go ahead and spend the money on a lift. Spacers might give you looks, but they will reduce your handling and ride. There are also no production rear spacers over 1" tall. 1" w/ spacers is a slight waste of time in my opinion.
Honestly it was meant as a joke, the spacers are going in the scrap bin where they belong and being replaced with Slee 6" coils.
4" of lift and you are looking at caster correction, longer shocks, bumpstop and swaybar spacers, adjustable panhards etc.
Well on a stock 80 285, 295, and 305 size tires will all fit and not rub at all. 305s are the same height as the 285 but just wider
1" spacers will be plenty good enough and no more needed for 33" tires, provided your springs are already good. I think it improves the looks and in my experience does not affect handling to any degree I was able to feel. I'm pretty sure your shocks will lose some extension, but most times it doesn't matter.
I think you'll be alright.
Kalawang
I think you'll be alright.
Kalawang
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Haha, I'm claiming stupidity in this department as I'm a newbie...
If I go with a 2" spacer on the front, can I double up the 1" spacers on the rear to end up with 2" so I get a uniform look?
By the way, what is the point of making a 2" front spacer (metaltech) but not the rears? why would anyone want their vehicle sitting up higher in the front than the back? Can someone explain this to me? Thanks for all your guys help, I will get this figured out soon.
If I go with a 2" spacer on the front, can I double up the 1" spacers on the rear to end up with 2" so I get a uniform look?
By the way, what is the point of making a 2" front spacer (metaltech) but not the rears? why would anyone want their vehicle sitting up higher in the front than the back? Can someone explain this to me? Thanks for all your guys help, I will get this figured out soon.
Everyones rig sits abit different.
I will use mine as an example.
OME 2.5" lift
850 fronts, 860 rears
unloaded with stock damage multiplier and she sat pretty level, but at about 3 inches.
Now with almost 200 lbs of winch and bumper she is about 3/4 inch lower in the front, but the heavey springs are finally loaded and feel the way they should.
Because I have mediums, the rear changes depending on how much junk you put in your trunk but you still get a nice ride unloaded.
I am going to put 20mm spacers in the front to level things out.........but as a "trim" spacer.
I dont think you will get much satisfaction from using coil spacers as a psuedo-lift. Stock 10-16 year old springs will prolly just give out and you will soon be close to where you started.
When you get your OME coils sitting beside your stock ones for compairison you will know what I mean.
If you wait for about a year I will sell you my 2.5 coils.
I can clearly see my future.....its in the 4-6 inch range with all the goodies to do it properly.....panhard adjusters, control arms etc....
For now though I am running 315 MTZs and having a blast, there is no substitute for big rubber.
I will use mine as an example.
OME 2.5" lift
850 fronts, 860 rears
unloaded with stock damage multiplier and she sat pretty level, but at about 3 inches.
Now with almost 200 lbs of winch and bumper she is about 3/4 inch lower in the front, but the heavey springs are finally loaded and feel the way they should.
Because I have mediums, the rear changes depending on how much junk you put in your trunk but you still get a nice ride unloaded.
I am going to put 20mm spacers in the front to level things out.........but as a "trim" spacer.
I dont think you will get much satisfaction from using coil spacers as a psuedo-lift. Stock 10-16 year old springs will prolly just give out and you will soon be close to where you started.
When you get your OME coils sitting beside your stock ones for compairison you will know what I mean.
If you wait for about a year I will sell you my 2.5 coils.
I can clearly see my future.....its in the 4-6 inch range with all the goodies to do it properly.....panhard adjusters, control arms etc....
For now though I am running 315 MTZs and having a blast, there is no substitute for big rubber.
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The OME spring sets are made for a rear weight bias, extra load carrying capacity in the rear, so the rear springs are taller. This makes the rear taller than the front, commonly called stink bug. The front spacers are made to level out trucks that don't carry much added rear weight.
The stock USA spec springs are very soft, even at stock ride height. By spacer lifting a truck with stock springs you will windup with an ill handling rig. When lifted the center of gravity and roll center are raised, requiring higher spring rate springs and stiffer dampened shocks. I wouldn't recommend any spacer lift on stock springs, that's probably why there aren't any sets of spacers available.
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Agree with the others, spacers are desinged primarily as a means to fine tune ride height depending on different loads and spring rates on different vehicles. They are not designed as a primary lift. You should invest in a quality lift. The difference in ride, handling and off road performance will be well worth the investment. As Tools R Us said the spacers will only exacerbate the poor handling of the tired under sprung stock springs you currently have. If money is a factor you can buy OME springs and castor bushings and use your stock shocks untill you can afford to new ones. The nice thing about our suspension design and the OME 2.5 lift is that they don't require many new parts so they can be done in stages if you will. Once you get above the 2.5" lift you start to require many more parts and money.
The lack of spacers for the rear in the metaltech lineup is something for metaltech to deal with. I myself have a full set, fronts and rears, of Safari spacers and I have seen complete sets made by others. However this is a first for me to hear of current spacers more than an inch tall and as these things have been around a long time and others used to make taller spacers too, I wonder why those others stopped making them more than an inch tall. Because these manufacturers have been around a long time, it's probably not a good thing to do more than an inch tall spacer. They must have had reason for discontinuing the taller spacers.
Spring sets come either as all equal height or with the front pair an inch taller. The all equal height sets produce a pronounced stink bug effect which is the rear being 2" higher than the front. The front 1 inch taller springs leave you a less visible stink bug effect. You really have to look or measure to see the rear is an inch taller. Neither appears to affect driveability, provided you didn't have driveability problems before the change.
I've been aware that the stock USA LC has a smaller wire than other markets. It's probably to suit driving comfort ot the greater majority of the American market as judged by the Toyota USA distributor. I don't have a measure of the USA wire, but my 80 has a 21mm wire for a 4" lift and I used to have a set of TJM's ( Australian made springs ) with 19mm wire for a 2" lift. Both were equally comfortable when suited with a properly stiff shock. In simple, the taller the ride, the thicker the wire and the stiffer the shock to help the thicker wire reduce a tendency to lean when making sharp turns. Too much of a lean can ruin one's day.
I have had my 80 loaded with 4 very large and heavy American visitors with all their luggage and frankly, my 80 sank 2" both front and rear, so I'm not entirely convinced that the stink bug effect helps with cargo. But then this particular experience is far from scientific. Just an anecdote. 
So go with what feels right to you. 
An inch added to stock height and 33" tires does not normally affect much of anything except looks and the business of getting in and out.
If you lift ambitions exceed 2", you should save yourself a lot of trouble by buying a quality lift kit. Kalawang
i have a 1/2" spacer on newer springs and gained 3/4" all the way around, it will keep me happy for a while and in good graces with the wife
