Thanks for writing a trail report Chuck.
This was a pretty wild day. Things started to look bad for me early on because of some "phantom" brake problems, I thought I was going to have to turn around early, but the brakes kept coming back to work, so I stayed in the game.
I'm speaking for myself, but when they asked us to remove an abandoned vehicle, I never thought it was going to be in a place this difficult. We could have taught a 4 hour winching 101 class. There were winch cables everywhere, I know I learned a thing or two. At one point, it literally looked like we were building a spider web in front of andy's rig, there were three snatch blocks, two chains and about five shackles involved. crazy!!! plus chuck was hooked up at the same time to boot. We tried to leave the winches out of things for a while, but the ground was just too soft and the trail just too off camber. There were surely some places where you could have taken a flop if you were not careful.
I think that's why that toyota was in this location, it looked to me like it rolled, but even if he didn't, there was no way you were getting a stock toyota out of that valley. especially when it had 1,000 bullet holes in it.

by the way, bullet holes seem to be really handy for providing places to hook your ratchet straps too, lol.
I am glad I was there and was proud to give back to the forest service, I sometimes feel like I don't do enough to enjoy all the public land we have rights too.
Watching scott from the forest service steer that toyota with not rear end, no door, a cigar hanging out of his mouth, and a huge grin on his face was not to be missed, I laughed about that the whole way home. I also got a free hub dial out of the deal if anyone needs one, let me know

later.