Brakes feeling squishy still after bleeding.

[nodashi]

Ever since I put in the extended brake lines in the rear the brake pedal has never felt as firm as it did before. Now, I have bled the brakes. Rear with the ABS pump and front with a vacuum bleeder. I though I was doing something wrong but even the local mechanic bled the brakes and it still feels squishy. Anyone got any tips?

 

[r2m]

Ever since I put in the extended brake lines in the rear the brake pedal has never felt as firm as it did before. Now, I have bled the brakes. Rear with the ABS pump and front with a vacuum bleeder. I though I was doing something wrong but even the local mechanic bled the brakes and it still feels squishy. Anyone got any tips?

What are your pads and rotors like? Pretty new still or showing a little wear?

 

[Rednexus]

For whatever reason the brakes on these rigs can trap little bubbles in them. I've bled my brakes 4-5 times, always with the ABS system and always had good luck, but when I put on new brake hoses last summer, still got a bubble in one of the rear lines after bleeding.

I ended up getting a Motive Power Bleeder and bleeding the rear brakes again. This resulted in one tiny bubble coming out of the right rear caliper. It seemed like the smoothness of the power bleeder help push it out, as opposed to the violent nature of bleeding with the ABS pump. Not sure why I had good luck so many times before, but I won't be bleeding with the ABS pump again. The power bleeder attaches to the master cylinder and uses low pressure (like 5 psi) to push fluid thru the lines.

I've also tried vacuum bleeders and don't like them....I personally don't trust their ability to remove air bubbles unless you 1) have a perfect seal on the bleeder valve and 2) generate enough vacuum to actually pull brake fluid through. In my experience, both of those things are hard to do with a vacuum bleeder.

If both you and your local mechanic bled with the ABS method, maybe you have a tiny bubble in there. If you have squishy brakes after putting on new lines but not touching anything else, there is about a 90% chance you have an air bubble in there. I'd buy the Power Bleeder and give it a shot.

0101 - Round Universal Power Bleeder

Solo-bleed any vehicle with the Round Universal Power Bleeder: 2qt tank, universal adapter (1.5"–2.90") & 4ft tubing for fast, mess-free one-person service.

www.motiveproducts.com

 

[nodashi]

What are your pads and rotors like? Pretty new still or showing a little wear?

pretty new with little wear

For whatever reason the brakes on these rigs can trap little bubbles in them. I've bled my brakes 4-5 times, always with the ABS system and always had good luck, but when I put on new brake hoses last summer, still got a bubble in one of the rear lines after bleeding.

I ended up getting a Motive Power Bleeder and bleeding the rear brakes again. This resulted in one tiny bubble coming out of the right rear caliper. It seemed like the smoothness of the power bleeder help push it out, as opposed to the violent nature of bleeding with the ABS pump. Not sure why I had good luck so many times before, but I won't be bleeding with the ABS pump again. The power bleeder attaches to the master cylinder and uses low pressure (like 5 psi) to push fluid thru the lines.

I've also tried vacuum bleeders and don't like them....I personally don't trust their ability to remove air bubbles unless you 1) have a perfect seal on the bleeder valve and 2) generate enough vacuum to actually pull brake fluid through. In my experience, both of those things are hard to do with a vacuum bleeder.

If both you and your local mechanic bled with the ABS method, maybe you have a tiny bubble in there. If you have squishy brakes after putting on new lines but not touching anything else, there is about a 90% chance you have an air bubble in there. I'd buy the Power Bleeder and give it a shot.

0101 - Round Universal Power Bleeder

Solo-bleed any vehicle with the Round Universal Power Bleeder: 2qt tank, universal adapter (1.5"–2.90") & 4ft tubing for fast, mess-free one-person service.

www.motiveproducts.com

I am going to try to use tech stream to bleed the brakes if that fails then I will try your method. Thank you

 

[Acrad]

+1 on the Motive Power Bleeder

I use this on all of my rigs and made for a dead simple brake fluid flush on my 460 as well

Cap I used w/Motive on 460

https://www.amazon.com/Power-Probe-BA10-Adapter-Toyota/dp/B004IQ96RK

 

[Rednexus]

+1 on the Motive Power Bleeder

I use this on all of my rigs and made for a dead simple brake fluid flush on my 460 as well

Cap I used w/Motive on 460

https://www.amazon.com/Power-Probe-BA10-Adapter-Toyota/dp/B004IQ96RK

Didn't know they made that, but I'm going to invest in it next time. The universal one works, but I had to use a piece of copper wire under the MC to get it to cinch down and seal.

 

[Acrad]

Cap fits well… engage the locks on top and then tighten with the center knob.

 

[Hiluxforever]

I did the redneck version of tech stream. I hit gravel roads and repeatedly engaged abs and used the abs pump to bleed the system when I did my front pads a few weeks ago. I was distracted and let air in the system.