Boggers vs. Irok's opinions

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FJnAK

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First of all who is running boggers?
I chose to go with 37" Iroks this last summer because of the hope of an OK on road ride during the summer as well as good traction. I have 315 All Terrains for the winter anyway. After wheeling for the summer up here I realized that they just don't bite as well as I would like in the mud. It seems like you have to use a lot of wheel spin to get them to clean out. Boggers seem to be the tire of choice for the dedicated wheelers or Ag tires if one has a trailer.
How well will the 80 birfields hold up to 37" Boggers?

This is not rock crawling, mainly muddy trails, hill climbs and expedition type wheeling.

2nd question, Has Interco figured out a way to make boggers round?

My last set rode horrible and would not balance, but that was 6 years ago.
Or should I just stick with the Iroks and plan to upgrade winch motors so I can get through the bogs (I'm running an old Warn 8274).
 
I claw through everything with my boggers, and if I can keep wheel spin down, I can creep over all rocks. But the only way to know for sure is to try both....as your wheeling style might tend towards boggers where as Iron and moto's don't.
 
alkaline747trio said:
I claw through everything with my boggers, and if I can keep wheel spin down, I can creep over all rocks. But the only way to know for sure is to try both....as your wheeling style might tend towards boggers where as Iron and moto's don't.
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My opinion is from running Boggers for a year on my 80 and not being satisfied with them then buying Iroks and running them for a year and being thrilled with their performance. I wheel in everything form deep mud to boulders.
 
I have both. The boggers are fun in the mud and do ok on the rocks. But they allow me to slide sideways all the time and unless I go straight up hil, boggers are useless on side hills. Irocs don't clean out well but keep things in better control.
just my 2 cents.
Goebs
 
Goebeler said:
I have both. The boggers are fun in the mud and do ok on the rocks. But they allow me to slide sideways all the time and unless I go straight up hil, boggers are useless on side hills. Irocs don't clean out well but keep things in better control.
just my 2 cents.
Goebs
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That's a good description.
 
I think I just peed myself looking at prices for a 36" irok... how long do these things last?
 
Let's see here...

IROK...as in rock...as in rock crawling tire...

Bogger....as in bog...as in bogging tire...

These tires don't really complete with each other.

Go for a 37" trxus MT and you can ditch the winter AT's as well :D

Seriously, though, the IROK is the move to make the traditional swamper a better rock tire, not a better mud tire.
 
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Iroks do well in mud, but wheel spin to clean is needed....they still pull when the tread is full (as do boggers), but a bogger is for straight line, paddle your ass through thick gooey crap kinda tire. The Irok is actually pretty damn good in snow and ice too, since it has so much siping.

I would go with Iroks (I have 37s on my 80). If you do not ever hit rock I would think the stock axle would hold up "better" but the longfields are a lot better for shock loading in turns, etc.
 
DanKunz said:
Iroks do well in mud, but wheel spin to clean is needed....they still pull when the tread is full (as do boggers), but a bogger is for straight line, paddle your ass through thick gooey crap kinda tire. The Irok is actually pretty damn good in snow and ice too, since it has so much siping.

I would go with Iroks (I have 37s on my 80). If you do not ever hit rock I would think the stock axle would hold up "better" but the longfields are a lot better for shock loading in turns, etc.
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I've never paid that much attention to the siping - it's a good looking tire with a lot more siping that I had thought. It reminds me of a more aggressive trxus MT and no doubt has better cleaning ability. Probably a great tire for those who see both mud and snow at the same time in sink to the frame quantities (trxus MT if you see snow and rock at the same time).

None of them will be round, but hey, it's Interco :D
 
I agree with Nay, give the Truxus a shot. You may be surprised how well they are for an all around tire.
 
Nay said:
None of them will be round, but hey, it's Interco :D
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The Iroks are. I had mine ride matched on the Hunter Road Force GSP9700 and eacdh filled with 10oz of dyna beads. They ride fine, I just put 3500 highway miles from San Antonio to Los Angeles running 75-80 mph. Now depending on road surface there is some latteral imbalance shimmy. I may go back and have wheel weights added to help correct the latteral imbalance.
 
I have the Iroks, they are good all around tires. I'm not planning on getting anything less aggressive (Trxus). The trails we have up here in Alaska all have mud in them and I've been stuck quite a few times with the Iroks. I'll see if adding 5.29 gears will give me the power to get through it better next summer.
 
What about good Old fashion SX's???
 
I ran SX on my last FJ40, they were good tires but didn't street so well. I guess I bought into the hype about the Iroks being round and a better tread design. Since this rig is a daily driver, I was thinking I would get away with running one set of tires in the summer (IROKS), another in the winter (AT's). I didn't want to change tires every time I want to go wheeling.
I wouldn't touch radial Swampers with a ten foot pole. The 36's have way to little space between the lugs and I like the sidewall strength of bias swampers. The bias Iroks have been pretty good on the street, and for 85% of the trails they work great. Its just the deep mud that they don't work so well. I'll probably use them this next summer then sell them while the value is still high and put the money towards Boggers.
 
You wonder if part of it is that the 80 isn't so great in serious mud due to the weight. Might be time for a V8 swap and some 40's :D

You have to love the Southwest. I haven't seen real mud in 10 years.
 
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