Land Speeder
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My point was, seems you (no one ever really does) never actually lived IN Birmingham... always in one of the neighboring cities...
I like the area too. Alot of things to do here.
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My point was, seems you (no one ever really does) never actually lived IN Birmingham... always in one of the neighboring cities...
I like the area too. Alot of things to do here.
Bomar
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True....I can't remember if the first 2 where actually b'ham addy's.
But I would take it over the arm pit I live in now.
But I would take it over the arm pit I live in now.
You missed my entire point I guess and I don't need statistics showing poverty and crime rates because I'm well aware them. I audit many municipalities and business around the area. I said MOST of Birmingham was poor with some unsafe areas but not all. I think you don't know enough about the different neighborhoods in Birmingham to make absolute statements. All of the areas bordering Mountain Brook are safe and are the oldest parts of Birmingham with many beautiful homes and safe neighborhoods. Most major metropolitan areas are split up on economic and racial lines. Crime happens everywhere and Birmingham is no exception, but the overwhelmingly vast majority is in a few areas, mostly to the West of I65. I've been to almost every town in Alabama and Mississippi over the years on work and poverty/segregation is everywhere. The stereotypes people from other regions exist for a reason but I've seen that everywhere I traveled over the years, especially in larger Northern cities. I grew up in Selma with a large family farm in Perry County, so maybe I am used to the economic and social realities of the areas. I've had to brandish a firearm twice in my life; once at the Chevron station on Arkadelphia road when a crackhead tried to reach in my Bronco and open the door and once in rural Perry County. Other than that, no problem. I've had my truck broken twice, once each in Mountain Brook and Orange Beach. That happens everywhere. I carry a LCP daily as well, but I do go to housing authorities on a regular basis for work. Not once in over 300 housing authority audits have I had a problem. I might be too ugly to mees with
Look at a map of the Birmingham city limits in yellow to actually see what is included in Birmingham. The summit area you lived in is right there in Cahaba Heights.
Land Speeder
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Nope, I totally got your point. You seem to be proving mine.
Your point of all of the city of Birmingham being a hood and dangerous is incorrect. Sorry.
Land Speeder
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Your point of all of the city of Birmingham being a hood and dangerous is incorrect. Sorry.
cool. You said all danger is on the West side of I-65. Remind me where GCP is. Remind me where Eastlake is. Remind me where the mall that is closed down due to violence is (Crestwood).
A woman got shot and killed in her doorway by two people while holding her ten day old baby in her arms. Sorry, that don't happen in safe cities. It did happen on the East side, last week.
I'm sure there are better areas in the city, but going off statistical data, there is no safe neighborhood in the city. Putting blinders on does not change statistics.
Land Speeder
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oh crap, you said most, not "all"... nevermind, I guess Birmingham is a safe city.
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There are not hundreds of cities more dangerous than Birmingham or even tens of cities but (according to forbes) 4 cities more dangerous
http://www.forbes.com/pictures/mlj45jggj/5-birmingham-ala/
And from what I have read if you through Bessemer into the mix it becomes the 2nd most dangerous metro area.
http://www.forbes.com/pictures/mlj45jggj/5-birmingham-ala/
And from what I have read if you through Bessemer into the mix it becomes the 2nd most dangerous metro area.
Land Speeder
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Look at a map of the Birmingham city limits in yellow to actually see what is included in Birmingham. The summit area you lived in is right there in Cahaba Heights.
If this map were correct, then yes, Cahaba Heights would be in Birmingham. But it's not, Cahaba Heights is north of I-459, not south of it. Only the Summit is part of Birmingham, Cahaba Heights is part of Vestavia, not sure when that happened, but that's who patrols it. My buddy, a Birmingham Police officer is assigned the Summit and 280 corridor.
CH used to be part of Mountain Brook, at least the complex I lived in was, my cousin lived in the same building in the 90's and had a Mountain Brook address. Mine was Vestavia
No, that is not what I stated. I wrote
al.com post a map that tracks each murder. It agrees with my statement.
The crestwood mall wasn't closed due to violence. Where did you get that from?
The lady was shot in a housing authority project that is rampant with drugs and crime. Sad, but that happens in those areas. Rapes, murders, robberies, etc happened in Auburn quite a bit where you just moved from. I wouldn't call it unsafe, but it happens. Certain areas of Hoover have become problematic with the shift in the population there. Look at that map again I posted for you to familiarize yourself with the actual areas of Birmingham. Ignorance is no excuse. 
this is 2009, look to see where most of the murders are happening. The same poor, crime riddled neighborhoods to the west and north areas of town.
http://blog.al.com/bn/2009/06/map_of_birminghamarea_homicide.html
Land Speeder
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The crestwood mall wasn't closed due to violence. Where did you get that from?
From the gang graffitti on it. LOL.
It's literally a quarter mile from arguably the roughest projects around.
Land Speeder
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Even trying to make a comparison between Auburn and Birmingham with crime is laughable. The last murder that happened in Auburn caused an all out man-hunt that shut parts of Montgomery down similar to Boston recently.
Crime is everywhere, but that doesn't make Birmingham a safe city.
Crime is everywhere, but that doesn't make Birmingham a safe city.
ClankBang
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I've been to projects a lot worse than that.
A comparison wasn't mde. No one has yet stated all of Birmingham is a safe city.
linked to in post 30
ClankBang
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This is actually a cool site but here is a list of homicides broken down by year.
looks like the 30's were rough and the 90's.
http://www.bhamwiki.com/w/Birmingham_homicides_by_year
looks like the 30's were rough and the 90's.
http://www.bhamwiki.com/w/Birmingham_homicides_by_year
Land Speeder
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Then what was it? A contrast?! LOL.
You brought up Auburn and Hoover... if that wasn't a comparison, then please define it. LOL.
If a murderer is in a house.... I'm getting the hell out of the house. Hiding in the bedroom and saying the killer's in the kitchen... doesn't make me feel safe... if you feel safe in that bedroom, then so be it.... it doesn't change the fact that the killer is mere feet from you. I'll be safer in another house! LOL. That's the best way to "compare" it.
It was neither a contrast nor a comparison. LOL
Land Speeder
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then what was it?
That map is misleading, Eric is correct that it labels the Overton Neighborhood as Cahaba Heights. Most of that area to the southeast is unpopulated except for the Summit. I might live in Forest Park and would live in Redmont Park, but would not feel as safe as I do in Homewood.
I have called the police in Homewood a couple of times for suspicious things that did not turn out to be anything serious, both times they had multiple cars at the house before I was off the phone with the dispatcher.
I have called the police in Homewood a couple of times for suspicious things that did not turn out to be anything serious, both times they had multiple cars at the house before I was off the phone with the dispatcher.
