Bio diesel locations in the lower mainland

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This has probably been asked before, but I don't feel like searching.

So I know, and use, the Autogas station at Marine and Byrne in Burnaby. They sell Cascadia bio fuels version of bio diesel (their website seems not to work?) in flavours of B5, B10, B20, and B50.
What other stations are around that sell Bio?
 
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just at the foot of the Alex Frazer bridge beside the timmy's (delta side)
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Ahh cool, I go by there on occasion to some fab shops. What station has it there though?
 
Enigma said:
Ahh cool, I go by there on occasion to some fab shops. What station has it there though?
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It's an independent Husky right beside the Esso and Timmy's. It's full serve during regular hours. You got B5, B10 or B20 and B40. At night it works like the card lock but accepts any major credit card. Their big hose pump is fasssssssst!
 
You also have a station on Main and 26th (I think) in Van selling B10. You have Bio in Whistler, Cawston, Penticton, North Vancouver. And probably a few other places. There is also a company that does fleet fueling with bio also. There was a thread in the Diesel section on this a year or two ago. I see that Cascadia's web site seems to be down. It had a listing of all the places which sells their fuel.
 
Main and 6th or 7th.
 
Hi Guys, I work for United Petroleum Products in Burnaby on Norland Ave. Cascadia was part of us, and is no more. We are going to use the UPP brand (less confusion on who is who).

Most think we are a Husky, which is incorrect. We had Husky branded cardlocks (two pump islands). We are now an Esso branded cardlock for those same pump islands. Our biodiesel is our own, and we have two other locations as well as our partners:

UPP Biodiesel Cardlock map

Autogas Biodiesel Location Map

Barry Beecroft Fuel Distributors Ltd. biodiesel locations

If you are ever in drop by and say hello!

Shane
 
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Good to know Shane. Is that why Cascadia's web site is down? I was wondering.

Is there any thought of bringing UPP out into the valley? Isn't their a UP cardlock in the Fraser Canyon? I don't se it on your map but ewas pretty sure there was one on the west side of the road. It would be nice if one could just pay by VISA or other credit card at any time of the day. Any chance of setting it up like this - like Autogas?
 
Shane, your map of the Autogas locations does not show the Marine/Byrne location. Will the Autogas outlets still be using the same Cascadia B100 ingredients to blend their Bio? I ask because the B50 I use there has ran perfect for me (except that one real bad cold snap), and I also liked their stated ethics on how it was made from all recycled oils etc (no food crops).
X2 what John said, need more Bio locations out in the Valley.

Back to that cold snap comment. When that happened and my fuel gelled up, I phoned the Burnaby station to get some help, they gave me a number for a guy (I forgot his name and number), who was very helpful. I never ended up having to do anything actually, once it thawed a bit in the sun it was just fine. I did add some anti-gel stuff after that though, just in case.
And while I'm pouring my heart out here, the station attendants at that Burnaby location, while friendly enough, seem to be only good at pumping fuel.
I have no idea if this is considered a 'full service' station, but that seems to be a real problem everywhere now.
 
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If you run B50, use some fuel conditioner,(I used to really like Bio) Now I dont , ( too much water in it), and if you dont believe me, I can show you pics of Racor water seperators filled with water after a couple of days of use. Be careful, I hope you can understand this.
 
Aaron, if you were getting water in your fuel, then I would be making a formal complaint to both the station and the governement body responsible.

I don't use bio on a regularly. However, I have yet to have any water in my fuel when I check or change fliters. Every time I drain my separator, all I get is diesel in a glass jar (I do check). I just filled with B50 on Friday, so I will check to see when I get near to a 1/4 tank.
 
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Aaron, if you were getting water in your fuel, then I would be making a formal complaint to both the station and the governement body responsible.
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If there is water in any fuel that would mean that the station's tank is not being properly looked after. There have been instances where gas stations end up with water in their gasoline because the tank is taking on water from either a leak into the tank, or human error allowing water into the tank.

Just as canucksafari mentioned, you must immediately make a complaint to the station where you filled up last. That goes for any fuel, anywhere.

As long as Biodiesel meets the American Society for Testing Materials (ASTM) standards for petrodiesel (ASTM D975) and biodiesel (ASTM D6751) then you are covered! If it is a home brew of biodiesel, or biodiesel that does not meet those standards, then you may be wanting to chat with the supplier.

Enigma, I will make a note of the station attendants.

We've been talking about the Visa/Credit card system for a while now... patience :)

Depending on locations and markets, it's all relative to who wants biodiesel. If the market demand is there we may have it...

Believe it or not, there are still a lot of people against biodiesel because of misinformation and issues that people immediately blame on the fuel... usually it is something else.
 
The market is here in Abbotsford. A couple years ago I spoke with the sales rep from Cascadia and he said they did a study showing that there was more than enough demand for a station Abbotsford. Apparently they did have something in the works but the station owner they were negotiating with backed out at the last moment. I presume it was one of the Husky Stations - all of whom only have one or two diesel pumps that are always blocked by gassers filling up. :mad: (pet peave)

Anyways, just look at the number of diesel operated vehicles, farm, industry and construction equitpment in the Abbotsford area and you know that there is a big potential market.
 
No problems with water here, I've been using B50 from the Byrne road station off and on for a year now. And just filled up with B40 (how come no B50?) at the Husky/Autogas at Nordel today.
Truck runs great, and smells nicer :)
 
Yes, all of our biodiesel comes from West Coast Reduction, we are there smallest customer they allow. West Coast's biodiesel stock meets the ASTM and BQ9000 specs. Part of the biodiesel is locally collected, therefore there is a even a greater reduction in GHG's because it's obtained locally from used oils and refined to meet the specs.

Ah, there is a demand for diesel in Abbotsford, but most farmers use marked diesel. The government allows for a tax break for non-road equipment with farmers (i.e., tractors, generators, etc) that requires a license with inspectors checking all the time. If anyone is caught with marked diesel in their vehicles... well, lets say it's like owing the feds taxes you have not paid in a long time... its not pretty :(

We will see what the future will bring... just wait till Jan 1, 2010 ;)
 
In my almost 40 years on this planet, I have never seen a fuel inspection. What would these inspectors do if they sampled your tank and you were using heating oil? Same bad juju?

And since we have your attention, what about that marketing thread you had started awhile back?
 
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