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I have a 87' FJ60 and my superwinch isnt working right. Im looking at 12,000 pound warn winches, but I was wondering what the bigest winch you can fit in an ARB bullbar is for an FJ60.
THANKS,
mark
 
Warn 15K pounder will fit with slight mods.
 
A little OT - What is the minimum winch size for an FJ60, and what would you guys reccommend? I don't really see the need for a 15K since and FJ60 isn't THAT heavy. 12K even sounds like overkill...
 
I've got a Warn M12000 on my 80, does anyone know for sure it will fit on the ARB for the FJ60? I've been temped to try it but it's a lot of work I'm not going to do unless I know it will work. Anyone?
 
Rule of thumb is winch capicity twice vehicle weight so an 8K is a bit too small and a 10K is a bit too big. Most people go with 10K winches. I use 8Ks on mine with a snatch block which dble line pull but cuts speed in 1/2. 8K also costs 1/2 as much as a 10K and weighs a lot less. 12K is way too big
 
OT - Sorry for the hijack, butt ...

Anybody have contact info for where to find a bolt up Class 3 or Class 4 receiver for the front of an FJ60 ???

Cheers,
Cahil
 
agreed...winch should idealy be 2x your rig weight, but the 8274 is notoriously underrated, and a common install on heavier rigs.

That said, the 10k warn is ideal for the 60/62 series...but if you can get the 8274 to fit (it's own mount system) I'd personally run that...heavier, but WAY fast
 
I had a Jeep J20 when I was in High School, it had an old Ramsey 9K it was plenty for my rig which had HEAVY custom bumpers front and rear and a diamond plate bed with 4" channel stock under it. One time I sunk that rig (suprising considering how light it was eh?) to the doors in some serious goo :doh: . I was able to get out with single line pull no problem...that's about all I'd ever ask it to do. So the answer really depends on what you need it for....once in awhile oops in some mud or chronic hardcore wheeling.
 
I have recently formed an opinion that weight is a significant factor in power, handling, etc (duh). In the quest to build everything heavy duty, you may negatively effect some aspects of performance. I think a winch slightly more than needed is good; same can be applied to other components. I think I am going with the new 9.5k XP winch from Warn for my 60. not as heavy as a 12k , but plenty powerful. Also my Safarigard winch bumper is some lighter than ARB. This set up should be plenty for my moderate wheeling, ride good on the road, and wear out springs/axle/steering components etc slower. Just installed Slee sliders, and this truck is starting to get heavy even with the V8.
 
Keep in mind too that the more grunt you have in the winch the greater possibility for damaging your own rig. Last winter while trying to winch a horribly stuck 4Runner I ended up breaking several welds on my front springhanger. Once my suspension compressed completely and the cable stopped stretching, the only give was deflection of the frame horns that the bumper was attached to, causing the welds to break. This was with a 9500lb Warn.
 
8274, M10000, M12000. If the 12K fits a 80 series bar(and it does, I have one in my 80) it sould fit the 60 bar with similar mods
 
Im going to try and get a 24volt M10000 to put into my 60 bar.

I'd say 10,000, or 12,000 is the way to go. But let's face it, you can never have to much winch power!!!

Short of putting some ultra heavy thing up front, you cant have to much pulling power.




TB
 
I would go with the M12000 for the fj60. my fj62 at the dump this past weekend weighed in at 5,900lb empty, granted that was with all the exterior stuff on it winch bumpers sliders rood rack ect. but the inside was empty of all my tools and worldly posesstions. So all packed up I bet it is over the 2:1 weight to winch recomendation for the m12000. I geuss it depends how you are going to use your wagon to wheel. are you going to strip it down and wheel it light or are you going load it up.
as far as fitting a M12000 on the winch arb bull bar there is some minor trimming, or you can get the non wich mount bull bar and a winch mounting plate for the M12000 from warn and combine the 2 like I did.
Jason
 
fj6202840 said:
I would go with the M12000 for the fj60. my fj62 at the dump this past weekend weighed in at 5,900lb empty, granted that was with all the exterior stuff on it winch bumpers sliders rood rack ect. but the inside was empty of all my tools and worldly posesstions. So all packed up I bet it is over the 2:1 weight to winch recomendation for the m12000. I geuss it depends how you are going to use your wagon to wheel. are you going to strip it down and wheel it light or are you going load it up.
as far as fitting a M12000 on the winch arb bull bar there is some minor trimming, or you can get the non wich mount bull bar and a winch mounting plate for the M12000 from warn and combine the 2 like I did.
Jason


That was my plan. Good to hear someone else did it.
 
fj6202840 said:
I would go with the M12000 for the fj60. my fj62 at the dump this past weekend weighed in at 5,900lb empty, granted that was with all the exterior stuff on it winch bumpers sliders rood rack ect. but the inside was empty of all my tools and worldly posesstions. So all packed up I bet it is over the 2:1 weight to winch recomendation for the m12000. I geuss it depends how you are going to use your wagon to wheel. are you going to strip it down and wheel it light or are you going load it up.
as far as fitting a M12000 on the winch arb bull bar there is some minor trimming, or you can get the non wich mount bull bar and a winch mounting plate for the M12000 from warn and combine the 2 like I did.
Jason


My FJ62 weighes in right at 5000 lbs with a heavy Warn M12000, full size spare, rear Kaymar bumber, and rock sliders and a full tank of gas. I can't imagine that you have an additional 900 lbs hanging off your rig? I have only weighed it once though, so maybe the scale was off. But, since stock weight is almost 4,500 lbs, 5000 lbs sounds reasonable for mine.
 
I wish I would have picked up the 24volt M10000 a local had for sale for $250, it was off a tow truck(but looked like new)

HZJ60 Guy said:
Im going to try and get a 24volt M10000 to put into my 60 bar.

I'd say 10,000, or 12,000 is the way to go. But let's face it, you can never have to much winch power!!!

Short of putting some ultra heavy thing up front, you cant have to much pulling power.




TB
 
JDub said:
My FJ62 weighes in right at 5000 lbs with a heavy Warn M12000, full size spare, rear Kaymar bumber, and rock sliders and a full tank of gas. I can't imagine that you have an additional 900 lbs hanging off your rig? I have only weighed it once though, so maybe the scale was off. But, since stock weight is almost 4,500 lbs, 5000 lbs sounds reasonable for mine.


Let's see where should I start my rear bumper is prolly 150-200lb or so heavier than yours, due to the thicker steel used than kaymar uses, as well as the rear quater sliders, ladder, 34" spare on a 16x8 steel wheel. I alot of the weight is in the 16x8 steel wheels they are significantly heavier than stock wheels and alot heavier than All. wheels. my front bumper is prolly 75lb or so heavier in that it is an arb non wich bumper that was rebuilt with a 100lb warn winch mounting plate for a M12000. you didn't mention a rack mine weights in at 200lb unloaded. my truck is completely dynomated which prolly doesn't add much just makes it feel heavier. plus I run OME heavies which is like an extra 50lb a spring. Oh and i think my rear fzj80 axle is prolly heavier than a stock fj62 but prolly not by much.
I don't think the scale was off, they are pretty exact here on my island, Oh my tank was empty I put 21.7 gallons in right after I left the dump.
I serched past threads on vehicle weight to see where mine came in and found there were a few heavier than mine.
Jason
 
fj6202840 - Do you have an pics of your rig and ARB's non-winch mount bumper with m12000 mounting plate?
 
not sure how these will come out but you can see where the top of the arb was cut off and the 'L" angle of the warn winch mount was welded in. the arb supports had to be trimmed and the m12000 slides in with about 1/4 to spare (maybe). I took 3 more shots and will post thos as well
 
here are the other shots
 

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