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The look like worn down Krawlers. We did mention it to the BFG guys that was with us. The lugs look small on a 42" tire, but they are not that small. I think the voids are actually bigger than the old BFG MT>
BFG Mud-Terrain T/A KM2 tires
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It's a rock tire - I'll give BFG credit for putting them on the market given the past 5 years of BFG's market offering that have been pretty much worthless.
As for a wet climate tire...especially winter...hard to believe you'd run these as a single set of tires unless you live in the South, be that deep Southwest, Southeast, or that strange land in between we call Texas
I would have liked to see a more aggressive sidewall lug, similar to the Krawlers.
I run swampers on my 45 because I know they will get me where I want to go off-road. I don't give a rip about how they behave on the pavement because my truck does not spend alot of time there. However, for my work 4x4 that sees lots of pavement and only sees dirt once in awhile (when it does, it can be nasty job site mud/clay), I want a tire that wears good, runs somewhat quiet, but still gives really good traction off-road. I can find that in the KM. I am doubtfull that the KM2 can provide those highway attributes, but only time will tell. Frankly, if I wanted a Krawler, I would buy a Krawler.
Incidently, I live in the ice and snow area, so I get my old KM's siped at a tire store. This has greatly improved the traction of my tires both on and off the road. I had someone tell me recently to just sipe the center of the tread surface and to stop the sipes about 1/2" or more from the edge instead of going all the way across the tread. He said the edges of the tire wear better this way and he's done it with his own trucks.
Incidently, I live in the ice and snow area, so I get my old KM's siped at a tire store. This has greatly improved the traction of my tires both on and off the road. I had someone tell me recently to just sipe the center of the tread surface and to stop the sipes about 1/2" or more from the edge instead of going all the way across the tread. He said the edges of the tire wear better this way and he's done it with his own trucks.
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I finally decided with the KM2s after doing some research. I'll see it in 4 to 6 weeks. Size will be LT315/75R/16. These tires will be sufficient for my intended use. Now it's time to pick my second set. I'm going to be looking at some black steelies and will definitely go with Swampers which I used to run on my Sammi for more serious mudding. Any opinion on which brand of steelies? Currently checking Rockcrawlers, Trail Ready and MRW. TIA 
I finally decided with the KM2s after doing some research. I'll see it in 4 to 6 weeks. Size will be LT315/75R/16. These tires will be sufficient for my intended use. Now it's time to pick my second set. I'm going to be looking at some black steelies and will definitely go with Swampers which I used to run on my Sammi for more serious mudding. Any opinion on which brand of steelies? Currently checking Rockcrawlers, Trail Ready and MRW. TIA
Where did you find them? Everywhere I checked was back ordered indefinitely....
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I ordered it from 4Wheel Parts.
In my personal experience, BFG means Big F-ing Gimmick! If you advertise a thing enough, it will be worth a lot of money! That doesn't mean that it will work. My Montero had a set of them on it when I bought it years ago. The tires were new. They would not grip hard or soft rock, they dug holes in sand, they loaded up in mud, and they failed to really grab anything, including my respect.
I had that set of new tires removed and replaced them. I cut the tires up and used the sidewalls for exhaust hangers. That was as much as they were good for! I had raised white letter hangers on my muffler. And I had some real, capable tires on my truck. Not BFG's!
They are Baja champions only because they give away so many tires to off-road racing teams that could finish the race on half as many tires if they used better tires.
BFG makes a great tire for a sports car or other road sedan. I personally would not give a plugged nickle for a set of BFG for any truck that is to be used off-road.
I had that set of new tires removed and replaced them. I cut the tires up and used the sidewalls for exhaust hangers. That was as much as they were good for! I had raised white letter hangers on my muffler. And I had some real, capable tires on my truck. Not BFG's!
They are Baja champions only because they give away so many tires to off-road racing teams that could finish the race on half as many tires if they used better tires.
BFG makes a great tire for a sports car or other road sedan. I personally would not give a plugged nickle for a set of BFG for any truck that is to be used off-road.
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Where did you get the 17 with the right BS?
got any pics? I'm getting the KM2's next week, but need 17" rims to mount em...
got any pics? I'm getting the KM2's next week, but need 17" rims to mount em...
Must be a location thing...
I have ran BFG MT's and AT's on about 6 different trucks over the past 20 years (but never on an 80) and have never had a problem. I am not saying that there aren't better tires out there, but the BFGs have worked for me on a couple of mini's, a 40, and a couple of full sized rigs.
On the other hand, I have run Truxs and SSR's and hated both! The SSR's were completely worthless for the first 10000 miles, now that they are about half worn they are finally acting like an off-road tire. The Truxs (on an FJ-60) were just useless.
Currently I am running Toyo MT's on the 80....now THATS a nice tire!
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check out the hankook dynapro mt's. Great price I have found them as low as $155 for a 285/70-16 and they have great tread and sidewalls. I am getting some next week.
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Stopped by 4Wheelparts this afternoon to see what's up. No 16s KM2s yet but did see several sizes in set of 4. They're 285/17s, 37/20s and a 305/17s. This store is located close to Reliant Stadium if anybody is interested. Nice looking tires.
Out here in the rocks, the BFG's MT's and AT's and the SSR's don't fare well in the sidewall department.
The sidewalls on all three of those are "weaker" than other types of tires that we run out here in the SW.
The GY MT/R's work very, very, very well in the rocks. It's one of the top two or three tires that work well in our type wheeling terrain.
Here's a four "tire" trip.
2 SSR's and 2 BFG MT's.
SSR. Fred (driver of this vehicle, who's name is Fred also
) was, literally, right behind me, driving over the exact same section of rocks just a couple of yards behind me. I heard "bang", damn, another SSR 
Yet another SSR and kinda in a snotty spot to fix. BTW, those two Australian Shepards are really, really nice dogs.
2nd dead BFG MT on the same vehicle this day.
I'm the one in the green baseball hat, back to the camera, mmmmm, another #$@#@ tire dead. It's going to be a long day
Fred
Those BFG MTs in the pictures are not the new KM2s, correct?
Out here in the rocks, the BFG's MT's and AT's and the SSR's don't fare well in the sidewall department.
The sidewalls on all three of those are "weaker" than other types of tires that we run out here in the SW.
The GY MT/R's work very, very, very well in the rocks. It's one of the top two or three tires that work well in our type wheeling terrain.
Here's a four "tire" trip.
2 SSR's and 2 BFG MT's.
SSR. Fred (driver of this vehicle, who's name is Fred also
Yet another SSR and kinda in a snotty spot to fix. BTW, those two Australian Shepards are really, really nice dogs.
2nd dead BFG MT on the same vehicle this day.
I'm the one in the green baseball hat, back to the camera, mmmmm, another #$@#@ tire dead. It's going to be a long day
Fred
As stated before, I'm running 37"s on 17" rims. They work well in the snow although we haven't had a bunch yet this year (that sucks) but we have had a few storms that have put a nice enough layer down to do some nice power slides. The tires are very predictable in the snow and you have to work to make them lose traction. I have been trying to find a good place to do some donuts but every time I try, I can't seem to be able to get them to break lose completely so it's more like driving around in tight circles... Road manners are very good. I've only been able to play around on small stuff so far but they seem to have great grip on rocks and dirt. Man I need to get the lift on so I can run them through the ringer...
A note on purchasing... There is a great chain store that gives great "discount"s on the tires (PM me if you didn't get that...no affiliation). They will match pretty much any deal you can find anyplace else and they have a pretty cool replacement program. $40 per tire and they will replace if anything happens to the tire for its life. No pro-rating, you just get a new tire. Good insurance if you ask me, especially knowing what I will put them through.
Posted this to another thread too but can't remember which one...
A note on purchasing... There is a great chain store that gives great "discount"s
on the tires (PM me if you didn't get that...no affiliation). They will match pretty much any deal you can find anyplace else and they have a pretty cool replacement program. $40 per tire and they will replace if anything happens to the tire for its life. No pro-rating, you just get a new tire. Good insurance if you ask me, especially knowing what I will put them through.Posted this to another thread too but can't remember which one...
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As stated before, I'm running 37"s on 17" rims. They work well in the snow although we haven't had a bunch yet this year (that sucks) but we have had a few storms that have put a nice enough layer down to do some nice power slides. The tires are very predictable in the snow and you have to work to make them lose traction. I have been trying to find a good place to do some donuts but every time I try, I can't seem to be able to get them to break lose completely so it's more like driving around in tight circles... Road manners are very good. I've only been able to play around on small stuff so far but they seem to have great grip on rocks and dirt. Man I need to get the lift on so I can run them through the ringer...
A note on purchasing... There is a great chain store that gives great "discount"s
Posted this to another thread too but can't remember which one...[/QUOTE Looks good! What lift are you running? Stock gears?
