Best spindles?

[FullyLitLED]

Okay, I am still in the middle of a roof rack build but let me just say that having access to a welder is convenient but also hurts the wallet(not as much as buying ready made parts tho) haha What is the best spindle assembly? I am only seeing the IPOR spindle as the only option? I am making what you can call a rear bumper in some way haha But I am just trying to get rid of the rear plastic and mount a spare tire carrier!

Thanks in advance guys!

-LD

Edit: As I find spindle options, I will post them for future reference

Competition4x4(1750 # rating)-$85
http://www.comp4x4.com/tire_carrier_hinge_kit_2000.html

Iron pig offroad
http://www.ironpigoffroad.com//index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=61&products_id=74

AtoZ fabrication(1000/1800 lbs)-$49.95/$69.95
Tire Carrier Swingout Heavy Duty Hinge Kit - $49.95 (1000lbs rating)
Tire Carrier Swingout Mega Spingle Hinge Kit - $69.95 (1800lbs rating?, not clear in description, only says 80% stronger)
http://www.atozfabrication.com/store...Hinge-Kit.html

4x4labs(3500# rating)-$95
http://www.4x4labs.com/products/rear-bumpers/heavy-duty-spindles

 

[Pin_Head]

$50 - $80 is not bad for not having to reinvent the wheel. The ultimate in cheap spindles is to use a rear wheel hub and spindle from a 2wd passenger car. The junkyard is filled with them. recycle and repurpose.

 

[FullyLitLED]

$50 - $80 is not bad for not having to reinvent the wheel. The ultimate in cheap spindles is to use a rear wheel hub and spindle from a 2wd passenger car. The junkyard is filled with them. recycle and repurpose.

But is it going to have the 1000+ lb load strength of the spindles they sell? I would love to just go to a junkyard, would probably cost me like $15 but dont want to compromise the strentgh

 

[Darasick]

You want strength?

4x4 Labs 3,500lb - $95

Do it right the first time, so you don't have to do it right the second... It's cheaper that way!

 

[spdwaver]

But is it going to have the 1000+ lb load strength of the spindles they sell? I would love to just go to a junkyard, would probably cost me like $15 but dont want to compromise the strentgh

I guess it would depend on which passenger car you are looking at. But, think about the abuse that spindles must encounter in a mid-sized sedan; in that regard, I would think that spindles off of a vehicle would be strong enough.

 

[FullyLitLED]

You want strength?

4x4 Labs 3,500lb - $95


Do it right the first time, so you don't have to do it right the second... It's cheaper that way!

Damn! 3500lbs is a lot! I might not need dual swingouts if I do a 3500lb single spindle haha

I guess it would depend on which passenger car you are looking at. But, think about the abuse that spindles must encounter in a mid-sized sedan; in that regard, I would think that spindles off of a vehicle would be strong enough.

Good point!

 

[Pin_Head]

Why not use a Land Cruiser spindle? You would think they would be plenty strong and that way you have spare bearings if you ever need them on the trail. You could also use a hub to lock it in the open position. I have seen people use cruiser spindles on their trailer for just that reason.

 

[FullyLitLED]

Why not use a Land Cruiser spindle? You would think they would be plenty strong and that way you have spare bearings if you ever need them on the trail. You could also use a hub to lock it in the open position. I have seen people use cruiser spindles on their trailer for just that reason.

How would I source those landcruiser spindles? Junkyard?

 

[Pin_Head]

Mud classifieds? Your local TLCA club?

 

[Darasick]

I like the idea of putting those on trailers! If you used it for a tire swingout, do you think that the arm would flex due to the weight and constantly bang the bumper since you locked it at the pivot point?

 

[Pin_Head]

I wouldn't use the hub to lock in in the closed position, only to lock it open when you are not moving. There is too much play.

 

[FullyLitLED]

Okay, I am confused now as I do more research...when I purchase the spindle assembly:
1. Weld spindle to selected mounting point

then...(this is where I'm lost, sorry for the first time lack of experience)

2. Weld the swing arm assembly to the sleeve? Or do I need to fab up another circular sleeve-swingarm assembly to go around the spindle assembly

the more searching I do, the more I get lost. I guess cos people who have the fab skills cant dumb it down enough for a newbie

Thanks again, I appreciate all this help!

Edit: I added a picture(from the wild yoats rear carrier build) of what I was talking about, it seems to be attached to the swingarm, is that circular sleeve part of the spindle assembly? Or self fabbed?

 

[fj40charles]

Why not use a Land Cruiser spindle? You would think they would be plenty strong and that way you have spare bearings if you ever need them on the trail. You could also use a hub to lock it in the open position. I have seen people use cruiser spindles on their trailer for just that reason.

I have seen this exact setup. Works perfectly.

 

[Pin_Head]

Why is it that people want to do those overlapping tack welds? Do they have a twitchy finger?

Starts and stops of welds are tough enough without having 100 of them on one weld.

OK, so it is just a spare tire holder, but you don't want that thing falling off on the freeway.

 

[FullyLitLED]

Why is it that people want to do those overlapping tack welds? Do they have a twitchy finger?

Well I assume lack of practice with the welder

 

[craptabulous]

Why is it that people want to do those overlapping tack welds? Do they have a twitchy finger?

Starts and stops of welds are tough enough without having 100 of them on one weld.

OK, so it is just a spare tire holder, but you don't want that thing falling off on the freeway.

welder stuck on stitch ?

 

[Pin_Head]

welder stuck on stitch ?

That is a possibility, but you think they would notice and stack those tack welds a little closer so you have a more even bead.

 

[fj40charles]

welder stuck on stitch ?

I'm guessing they're trying to make these beads look like tig welds. Pretty beads don't necessarily equal good fusion.

 

[AustinCruiser]

I'm guessing they're trying to make these beads look like tig welds. Pretty beads don't necessarily equal good fusion.

They look cold too. I bet the penetration wasn't too great.

 

[AussieRedneck]

Any more thoughts on spindles???