you don't have to buy the swing outs if you don't want or need them. I have a Slee on my 80 and a Dissent on the 100 and both bumpers you can just remove teh swingouts if they bother you that much. If these were my daily drivers I completely understand not wanting to deal with swing outs, they're definitely a PITA. Theyre fine on an offroad rig that gets used here and there. On a grocery getter though? No.I really like the idea of the additional protection of a steel rear bumper, but dealing with swing outs on a daily basis is a deal breaker. I'm ok with some of the spare being visible. When the time comes I'm considering one of the kit bumpers and modifying to keep the spare underneath.