Another M101, Different Lid.

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Figgered I show a pic of my version of an m101 lid.
I like the steel and aluminum ones folks are building, but I don't really want to be spending that much time OR money on a lid right now, so I opted for this.

Total cost, around 50 bucks. Total time, 2.5 hrs.

Its just a sheet of ply with a 2x2 frame under it for support, the different part comes in the covering.

Not many people use the canvas trick anymore, used to be on a lot of wooden boat decks back in the day, until Epoxy and Fiberglass took over. Makes a durable waterproof coating.
I've seen boat decks where the canvas done like this has lasted 50 years, you're really walking on the paint, not the canvas and thats what helps it last.

Essentially what you do is round any corners on the wood, maybe a quick sand if it's bumpy.

Then grab a gallon of cheap outdoor paint, in this case I grabbed some "Contractor Grade Porch and Floor" ,(because it was 12 bucks a gallon:hillbilly:) ,some plain canvas from the fabric store, and some staples.

throw a sloppy coat of paint on the lid, then spread the canvas over it and press it into the wet paint. Just like fiberglassing. Make sure you use enough paint that it doesn't all soak into the wood.
If it does, you'll want to give it a second coat before putting the canvas on.

Spread canvas flat, stretch it tight, staple it underneath, and then a few more coats of paint until the canvas weave is mostly "full" of paint.

And that's it. Works great, cheap as hell, not as messy, smelly or $$$ as FBG.


Thought there might be a few cheap buggers like me out there who want a waterproof lid for their trailer, but don't want to spend 300+ on it.

Couple pics, no " during" pics, as getting paint on the wifes camera was not an option...:doh:

Not finished yet, Still need to trim the exess canvas, but pretty close. I'll finish it off today.

If the coating looks a little strange in that first pic, its from water beading on it.(rained last night...:rolleyes:)



cheers,
ryan


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And Now, what it looks like finished. Still needs a hinge and handle, but works for me.


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Great idea, will keep that in mind.

Do NEED much more data on yr trailer build. Will search yr threads first.


edit: no joy.

Do give info on the rack build. I see the conduit looking elbows n stuff, but diameter is way big. MORE DATA please.
 
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Thanks, I don't have much info on the trailer build so no thread other than this one

I picked this up from "TooTall" on this board, who lives down the road from me a few months ago.

He works in the film industry, and the rack has something to do with that, but I've never really looked into it.

I actually bought it from him because the 45FF that's under it had disc brake brackets on it already, and I was lazy and didn't want to make another set...

and I think I got him in a weak moment :)beer::lol:) cuz it was kinda cheap...:grinpimp:
I'll see if there's any brand names or anything on the rack fittings, and shoot a pic of it for you.

cheers,
ryan
 
film steals, er 'Borrows' from industry, and others, all the time: I've seen that hardware before, just don't remember where.

not that it matters -- great fab idea, I won't be the first to poach it.
 
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muchas gracias.
have you used the forward up-tube connectors for anything yet? I can see PO using it to rep a product (banner both sides.





it's still freeking snowing where I live. :manymanybadwords:
 
No I haven't...actually haven't done a thing with the trailer yet other than tinker with it.

I was thinking of moving them both to the same side, and using them for a flip out awning or something ?

I'll actually have to go camping or something first..

My wife is stuck working down on the columbia river for a month, so depending how I feel I may head down there with it. Take some windsurf gear with me, see if I can remember how to do it...or if the boards I have will still float my fat ass...:lol:
 
sounds like hardship duty, make sure she puts in for that.

awning supports would be a great use for those, keep us posted.

pretty sure I don't want pix of you wiping out on the sailboard, so have lotsa fun doing that.
 
Like it, but...

I think this is a great idea :smokin: (like cheap solutions), but I'd probably put a bit of slope on the lid to get the water to stream off.

If you weren't planning on loading the cover, you do a convex bow with wooden slats for bows and cover it with paneling, then paint & canvas.

Makes my head spin with ideas...:skull:
 
I think this is a great idea :smokin: (like cheap solutions), but I'd probably put a bit of slope on the lid to get the water to stream off.

If you weren't planning on loading the cover, you do a convex bow with wooden slats for bows and cover it with paneling, then paint & canvas.

Makes my head spin with ideas...:skull:



Yep, cheap and easy suits me just fine....:grinpimp:

I thought about planing a bit of camber into the frame, cuz you're right it would help with pooling, but then kinda figgered...fxxxit...:lol:

Usually isn't parked on a flat anyways, and I also wanted to be able to carry 4x8 sheets of ply etc, on top of the lid, and flat works a bit better for that.

I re-decked an old wooden boat with paint/canvas about ten years ago, and I've been waiting to find a use for it ever since...it's just so easy to work with.


But with the camber , it caame down to me not wanting to spend much more time on it. Like I said, only took a few hours from start to finish.

Thing I like about best about this lid, is that it's DONE. and I can lock stuff in my trailer now over the summer, otherwise I probably wouldn't have gotten around to it at all.

So, for the time and money spent, I'm happy.

cheers,
ryan
 
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Ryan,

Lid looks great!

A couple of questions. What are your plans for the hinge and how are you planning on locking it?

Thanks, Alan

Thanks Alan,

well, hinges are nothing special, just a couple strap hinges from the hardware store. Like you typically see on a garden gate.

For locks, I've had these T handle locks I got from a Truck Canopy place kicking around for years.

I put a tailgate in it this weekend as well, and didn't want separate latches for both, so I put the t handles in the corners and worked it so they lock the tailgate and the lid .

only have this crappy pic.

Just about done working on the trailer, I just have to clean up some lockout hubs to put on to cover up the bearings.

cheers,
r
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Thanks for the ideas, might need to try that :beer:.

I've just been using a bare plywood top on mine, didn't even put hinges on so it could be removed easily. Put my 2x2s across the front and back so they fit inside the box rails so the lid doesn't slide around when closed. Originally threw the plywood on there so I'd have a decent table for a backyard bbq/party a while back.
 
Thanks for the ideas, might need to try that :beer:.

I've just been using a bare plywood top on mine, didn't even put hinges on so it could be removed easily. Put my 2x2s across the front and back so they fit inside the box rails so the lid doesn't slide around when closed. Originally threw the plywood on there so I'd have a decent table for a backyard bbq/party a while back.


haha, Nice !
I debated bothering with all this, and just doing the same thing..it would work just as well. is just a trailer after all..

I actually got to use it this weekend, tows smooth as a gravy sandwich, even on lumpy old gravel roads at 60kph.

Pintle sure does clang like a bastard at low speed tho. Theres no sneaking into a campsite at night, I don't know if that's an issue with fitment or what?

There's probably supposed to be some slack in there so it doesn't jam I'd think? Isn't much up and down, but for and aft, theres about 1/4-3/8"

Doesn't bother me, but does make the locals heads snap around when they hear it....:lol:

And for no other reason than to be a post/picture whore....:grinpimp:


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The rack is built from Kee Klamp, you can get the fittings in a variety shapes to build just about anything including structures, the film standard is 2". You supply the 2" pipe, I'm doing the same thing with 1" fittings and pipe.
http://www.keesafety.com/us/products/KeeKlamp
 
Hadn't even noticed my thread got a bump.. Lol...


IF anyone cares, it's been a year and a half or so now, canvas and paint lid still going strong...it's outlasted 3 cruisers and a frankentruck in my yard...:hillbilly:
 
The product that was used for boat canvas was Called Thorpe they quit producing it when i was an apprentice in the late 70's. There is a paste available that is similar to the old school Thorpe used by lagers in the marine industry. paint and canvas does how ever stand up quite well what happens in time the paint crazes and water will migrate.
 
The product that was used for boat canvas was Called Thorpe they quit producing it when i was an apprentice in the late 70's. There is a paste available that is similar to the old school Thorpe used by lagers in the marine industry. paint and canvas does how ever stand up quite well what happens in time the paint crazes and water will migrate.

yeah, eventually...takes quite a while tho, like years..

using a special marine product would defeat the purpose of the cheap factor, which is what this is all about. ;)

I'm still happy with it, and I'd do it again. may even use it on my boat deck when I get to that stage if I'm sick ( literally or figuratively ) of epoxy/cloth..

cheers,
r
 
I slide some old 2" ID radiator hose over the ball on my combo pintle when I want it to be quiet.
 

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