Alloy wheel lugs work with steel?

[Manhattan]

Swapping the factory '06 18" alloys, for 2007 Tundra 18", 5-lug steelies.

I know it has to do with the wheel being hub-centric or lug-centric... I think. Then there's that tapered lug thing. So basically, I know that I don't know enough to use the lugs I've got, or buy new lug nuts. What say the gurus?

I'm going to have the wheels powder coated a medium gray - gloss, no metal flake. The alloys will be cleaned up and stored for the next owner... or if I decide steel wheels on a luxury SUV isn't working.

 

[highonpottery]

fairly certain all Toyota steel wheels technically require a different style lug nut...the tapered/acorn-style (for steel) vs flanged (for alloy)

BUT...on the rigs that came with 4 alloys and 1 steel spare, you can use the mag-style flanged lug nut on them because Toyota didn't provide extra lugs for the spare. They still have the taper on the end and should seat just fine - if they didn't, I'm sure there would be a lawsuit already. Might not "look" correct, but they'll work.

IMO I'd say just buy a 2nd set of the correct lugs for the steel wheels for peace of mind.

 

[Manhattan]

Swapped the wheels today - and got new tires. Same size, e.g. 275/70/18 - BFG KO2. As highonpottery predicted, the OE lugs for the alloys work. But, I'm thinking I may want to swap them for a better fitting lug. Might go black... not sure.

Anyone know of a source for lugs for the Tundra steel wheels... other than the dealer?

 

[e9999]

if you want to be sure, check the cone angles and the overlap width

 

[Manhattan]

McGard makes a set...

• 14mm x 1.50 Thread size
• 13/16" Hex size
• 1.40" Overall length
• 60 Degree Conical Seat

I'm assuming the capped/non-open lugs for steel wheels would be longer - thinner wheel face - but don't know what is ideal.

 

[Ermagerd]

Steel wheels are made for conical acorn lugs, not shank-style lugs (LC Oe). If you use stock lugs on acorn style wheels, you're setting yourself up for failure.

 

[Manhattan]

Steel wheels are made for conical acorn lugs, not shank-style lugs (LC Oe). If you use stock lugs on acorn style wheels, you're setting yourself up for failure.

Did you see the part where I'm looking for replacement lugs?

Trying to determine if these lugs will work - it's the inside length ('cause it's capped) that I'm unsure of. The alloy wheels are thicker... so the lugs could bottom out before tightening. May just have to buy set and test them

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  • 14mm x 1.50 Thread size
  • 13/16" Hex size
  • 1.40" Overall length
  • 60 Degree Conical Seat

 

[Traskew3]

Where can I find a set of those??? I like em!

 

[e9999]

the OEM alloy wheel nuts on my 97 have the straight shank but they also have a conical end. When I switched to steelies, I checked the angles which were fine and I've used those nuts without a problem for the last 10 years.

(I'd be trivial to drill a hole in the end of those capped nuts above, I would think.)

 

[re_guderian]

Steel wheels are made for conical acorn lugs, not shank-style lugs (LC Oe). If you use stock lugs on acorn style wheels, you're setting yourself up for failure.

Not with the OEM shank nuts. They also have the appropriate conical shape. They look goofy, but they work just fine...

 

[Manhattan]

Yeah, they do work... and the do look goofy. Plus, that washer is loose. They've got to gof. I found a set (look just like the ones hoser posted - thanks!) from Gorilla - and they're black.

Thanks guys.