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The 60 PS pump has a bronze bushing rather than a ball bearing like the 62 does. When that bushing starts to wear out the force from the belt starts to pull the shaft and it quickens the demise of that bushing. Eventually it will lead to the seals failing.

My guess is that it’s getting close to time for the Saginaw pump @MoaByte. You’re buying yourself some time by lubing that bushing up.

It’s not a replaceable part either, so you can’t rebuild the pump. And rebuilt pumps from rock auto or the like didn’t change the bushing so they fail rapidly.
 
cps432 said:
The 60 PS pump has a bronze bushing rather than a ball bearing like the 62 does. When that bushing starts to wear out the force from the belt starts to pull the shaft and it quickens the demise of that bushing. Eventually it will lead to the seals failing.

My guess is that it’s getting close to time for the Saginaw pump @MoaByte. You’re buying yourself some time by lubing that bushing up.

It’s not a replaceable part either, so you can’t rebuild the pump. And rebuilt pumps from rock auto or the like didn’t change the bushing so they fail rapidly.
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Thank you. I got 37 years out of it, I can't complain about that.
 
cps432 said:
The 60 PS pump has a bronze bushing rather than a ball bearing like the 62 does. When that bushing starts to wear out the force from the belt starts to pull the shaft and it quickens the demise of that bushing. Eventually it will lead to the seals failing.

My guess is that it’s getting close to time for the Saginaw pump @MoaByte. You’re buying yourself some time by lubing that bushing up.

It’s not a replaceable part either, so you can’t rebuild the pump. And rebuilt pumps from rock auto or the like didn’t change the bushing so they fail rapidly.
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Why do you think the bushing isn't replaceable? It may not be available as a replacement part, but it's definitely replaceable.
 
@MoaByte listen to @cps432 - Sag is the way.

Yes you could make the unobtainable bushing and press the old out and the new in. Check for play, possibly do it over again, etc. Some time and money and know how and it might work. Or buy a Saginaw pump for like $80 from the parts store and spend 25 minutes installing and bleeding it.
 
Malleus said:
Why do you think the bushing isn't replaceable? It may not be available as a replacement part, but it's definitely replaceable.
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Sure, if you have a machine shop and can remove the old one and fabricate a replacement. It could be done. I’m saying as a general serviceable part it’s not replaceable and there’s a reason it’s not done on any of the remanufactured units available on the market today. It’s way easier to modify the bracket with a grinder and install a Saginaw pump.

If you or someone you know has replaced that bushing then I would buy you a damn beer because holy hell that’s amazing.
:beer:
 
You mean everyone doesn't have a lathe, or two, in their garage? ;)
 
CruiserTrash said:
@MoaByte listen to @cps432 - Sag is the way.

Yes you could make the unobtainable bushing and press the old out and the new in. Check for play, possibly do it over again, etc. Some time and money and know how and it might work. Or buy a Saginaw pump for like $80 from the parts store and spend 25 minutes installing and bleeding it.
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Does the gearbox need to be replaced as well if doing the SAG pump?!

Dan
 
Beehanger said:
Does the gearbox need to be replaced as well if doing the SAG pump?!

Dan
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It’s not 100% necessary. However, the old box will have old seals. The sag pump has much higher pressure output and will lead to old seals failing quicker than they normally would.

I installed a gear box from an 80 series into my truck just to push it around the driveway/garage while I’m building the engine. It’s a brand new unit. I plan on installing the sag pump when I install the engine.

The other issue you have to think about is contaminating your new pump with old crud from the old system. You can put the sag pump in there and roll with it, but you’ll be asking for issues down the road.
 
With the Sag, do we use the pink ATF?
I noticed my stock pump was not using the pink stuff but I topped it off with a few ounces of the pink stuff and the need to oil the bushing seems to have gone away.
 
I’m pretty sure you can use either atf or power steering fluid as long as you stick to either or. I might be wrong about that.

I’m pretty sure the answer is in this thread. It’s just been a while since I’ve read it all.

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Finally!!!! Saginaw PS pump conversion kit for FJ60s!!!!!

This has been in the works for what seems to be way too long ...... We've built a few prototypes and they've been up and running for a while. Came up with is final design after collaborating with another fellow mudder Brad and then modifying that design slightly a couple of times we've finally...
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cps432 said:
Sure, if you have a machine shop and can remove the old one and fabricate a replacement. It could be done. I’m saying as a general serviceable part it’s not replaceable and there’s a reason it’s not done on any of the remanufactured units available on the market today. It’s way easier to modify the bracket with a grinder and install a Saginaw pump.

If you or someone you know has replaced that bushing then I would buy you a damn beer because holy hell that’s amazing.
:beer:
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If anyone wants a new bushing, I'd be glad to turn one for them. PM me.
 
@MoaByte I have a year (or has it been two) with red ATF in the Sag pump. No issues. If you want your old original “Toyoda” cap on top of the Sag pump, I am working with a fellow Mud member on that. Just did another test mold today.it

@cps432 FYI
 
MoaByte said:
There is something endearing about seeing TOYODA spelled out under the hood. Honestly I thought about how much I'd miss that when weighing the pros vs cons. I'm so glad you are taking this on. Count me in!
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Not to derail this thread but search “Cruiser Trash Parts thread” - I made a post about it there.
 

@Romer and @OGBeno​

Is there a way to get a metric on how many page views this thread has had ALL TIME? Theres at least 10 people watching it at all times, and im really curious how many have seen my thread!

If you could get this metric from the WebDev fellas at corporate who have access to analytics, or recommend an email to me Id consider it an early XMAS present :)

:banana::banana::banana:Dan
 
Beehanger said:

@Romer and @OGBeno​

Is there a way to get a metric on how many page views this thread has had ALL TIME? Theres at least 10 people watching it at all times, and im really curious how many have seen my thread!

If you could get this metric from the WebDev fellas at corporate who have access to analytics, or recommend an email to me Id consider it an early XMAS present :)

:banana::banana::banana:Dan
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Turn your phone sideways.

Shows it's been viewed 54K times.
 
All I know about is the views from the main page of this section. BTW- We are moderators of specific sections (not this one) and not Admins.
 
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