A/C Drier damaged in accident. Could pieces of that be clogging my a/c lines/valve?

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Basic question: If the drier's desiccant bag was ruptured, where would system get clogged? Would pieces of that stuff make it through the condenser and clog up the expansion valve? Can this stuff (like small shards of broken glass) be completely blown out of the lines, condenser, and expansion valve (and how)?



Long story short (I'm lying!), a tire blowout towing mishap caused me to meet a guard rail head on, with relatively minor damage. I pulled out the core support in driver side front corner, and everything was drivable (nicked the PS high pressure hose), but then realized I'd lost my nipple-hardening A/C.

The drier had been dented in 1 inch or less, by the inside ridge of the front bumper. I didn't hear or see signs of freon leak, so I'm thinking the A/c should be working. Took it to a mechanic who thought the drier canister insides had shattered, and when I first turned on the A/c little pieces of that stuff went in and clogged some valve inside the dash, preventing the a/c from flowing.The fix was taking the unit from under the dash and clearing those lines/valves out, retrofitting for r134, and replacing the drier canister, refilling. $250. Having just paid a $1000 towing bill from the wreck and not having money to burn, I let him take the r12, and went to AutoZone and Walmat. Try the easy fix first.

I got a drier and a/c kit and hooked it up. Two+cans, and no dice. Realized I'd left the cap on the HP nipple onbut no big deal. After I turn off the car, I hear hissing under the high pressure side, and remove the cover and blam all the r134 is hissing out (bad needle). The needle might have been bad, but I got enough r134 in that the temp should have been lowered but it wasn't. BTW, the old drier sounded like a glass had broked inside it, and I actually could shake out pieces of what looked like black glass (score one for the mechanic).

How tough would it be to access the a/c lines and valve under the dash? To clear them, would you just blow them out with compressed air? If this was clogged under the dash and I put 2+ cans in, might I have put WAY too much pressure on the compressor? It did come out with much force when I removed the HP cap... Any detailed info would be appreciated.

Also, it was suggested by someone else to keep the r12, which I might consider after I get this thing resolved with the R134. Can I simply take the retrofit off and dump the r134, and refill with r12? I'd only do this if dissatisfied with the r134. This is south Florida, man.

Sorry about the novella...I can be too detailed sometimes.
 
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An update for those following this hot thread!

I've done what I could, replaced the expansion valve, flushed out the liquid line, replaced the drier, and slapped it back together. Wasn't too bad getting access under the dash,with five screws holding the glove box and three holding the cooling unit...pops right out. Four screws and four clips later, you're inside your unit looking at your evaporator and expansion valve...pretty simple. (if you have a 4x4 V-6 auto,there's a cut off relay you remove before the clips)

The real test'll be this Sunday, as I got a deal on a vacuum/recharge from a guy on CL.
 
Funny you should reply to this thread now.

I just (finally) got the guy from CL to come out and pressure test/recharge my system today. Somehow, the evaporator sprung a leak in the bottom corner of the evap, either from the desiccant bag crap or from me manhandling it while replacing the expansion valve (the leak was far from where I was using the wrenches though). Can't see the leak, so I can't use that weld stuff on it to seal it back up.

I have n 88 parts truck with a/c, so I'm wondering if anyone knows if the evaporators are interchangeable from an 88 to a 92? I'm gonna check the online FSM right now to see what the 88 looks like. I would hope I can use it, but who knows? Otherwise, another $100 bucks or so at the parts store. I'll hit my 88 up tomorrow AM, and will see the a/c guy again in the afternoon.

EDIT: O.K., it looks good for the 88 cooling box to work, if it is still in good shape. We'll see tomorrow, and get back with the result. Hopefully it'll be good, and the parts truck will definitely come close to paying for itself (including saving me this hundy).
 
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the type of refrigerant has not changed between the two years, so they will be the same that way, i image they will fit.

That's what I thought too, Wristy, but only 99% the same.:frown: The only difference was that the electronics are split onto two different plugs, which wasn't a problem (switched the 92 plug into the 88 evap), but the liquid line and vacuum hose in the 88 are slightly smaller, like an Asian you-know-what smaller, so the 92's hose/liquid lines are a no-go.

I'm going to grab the liquid line and hose from the 88 tomorrow, and hope they interchange at the compressor (vacuum hose) and at the 90 degree bend of the passenger side of the radiator (liq. line) or at the drier itself. I hope I can hybridize this sucker, as a new 1992 evaporator is pretty pricey, even aftermarket.
 
O.K., so the vacuum hose is different in the 88, and the hose shop wanted $40 to fab a hose to fit both the 92 compressor and the 88 evap (which I still don't even know if it's good or not). Luckily they sell the evap there for @ $75 tax included, which was 30-40% cheaper than Advance, so it seemed prudent to go for the new part. Raining like all hell tonight, so I'll get with the recharge guy tomorrow and fire this sucker up then.
 
O.K., so the vacuum hose is different in the 88, and the hose shop wanted $40 to fab a hose to fit both the 92 compressor and the 88 evap (which I still don't even know if it's good or not). Luckily they sell the evap there for @ $75 tax included, which was 30-40% cheaper than Advance, so it seemed prudent to go for the new part. Raining like all hell tonight, so I'll get with the recharge guy tomorrow and fire this sucker up then.


Forget most of this sh*t; I believe the PO must have used a different evaporator, and fabbed the hose to fit. The 92 evap I just bought has the same issue as the parts '88 I just tried; The metal of the vacuum hose goes in the hole, but gets stuck on an inner ridge of the evap side. I'll bring the hose from the 88 to the a/c shop tomorrow, and see how much they'll charge me to marry it up on the compressor side, and get the evap pressure-tested (I'll do this first, of course). Either that, or find an evap that fits the existing hose that's on the '92.

The saga continues...
 
Well, some good news, sort of. The a/c guy did give me the wrong part (from an '88) despite telling me for 10 minutes on the phone how I got the part I ordered. he owned up to it, however, when I returned the part. The charged me for the right ('92) evaporator, but pulled the wrong one from stock. Still, it was 30-40% cheaper than Advance, and in stock.

THE '88 EVAPORATOR IS NOT INTERCHANGEABLE WITH THE 89-95, UNLESS YOU CAN FAB THE VACUUM HOSE.
 
Well, my nipples are hard again.

The a/c charge was completed tonight, and while not quite as cold as the R-12, it seems to be working well. I hope I can say that 4-5 days from now. The evaporator was fine (amazing what the proper part can accomplish), but I had trouble getting the pressure seal to work on the expansion valve. An extra ring sealed the deal, at least for now.

Frankly I was kind of amazed how simple the system is, and how easy it is to work on, even under the dash. If your a/c isn't working, fix it yourself and save big time, unless you live in the Seattle area and only need it a couple of weeks per year. With the evaporator, drier, and expansion valve to replace, this bill would have been $600+ at the local A/C shop. I paid $75 for the new evap, $30 each for the drier and expansion valve, $15 for the A/C line cleaning solvent, and $20 for the recharge for a grand total of $170...even left me room for a $20 tip to the recharge guy. NICE!

With any luck, this'll be the last update. Fingers crossed...
 
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