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when your stuck up to the axle double the weight of the truck ,up to the frame triple it .this according to the usmc vehicle recovery course.8000 lbs seems kinda heavy for a cruiser.
 
i placed it on a truck scale, it is now 6,800 pound. by the time i am done and fully loaded it will be 8,000 pounds. check out my build IH8MUD.com - Page Not Found thanks
shelfboy1 said:
when your stuck up to the axle double the weight of the truck ,up to the frame triple it .this according to the usmc vehicle recovery course.8000 lbs seems kinda heavy for a cruiser.
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were running a full size chevy truck with military axles 2 t cases and 52" militry tires and rims and its only 7,500lbs thats why i was curious.my 40 has a 1/4" steel plate body sm 465 military axles fully boxed frame 48" tractor tires and weighs only 7000 lbs thats why i asked sounds like a nice rig.
 
which winch to use?

which winch would you suggest that has a pulling capacity of at least 1,600 up to 2,400 pound? :hhmm:

shelfboy1 said:
when your stuck up to the axle double the weight of the truck ,up to the frame triple it .this according to the usmc vehicle recovery course.8000 lbs seems kinda heavy for a cruiser.
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rideglobally said:
which winch would you suggest that has a pulling capacity of at least 1,600 up to 2,400 pound? :hhmm:
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You need to add a zero: 16,000 to 24,000 lbs. That's going to be a pretty big winch.

Check out the warn winch site. They have a truck winch as large at 16,500. They also have industrial winches for tow trucks, etc. that get larger.

I think you need to consider how you are going to use your truck? Are you really going to be stuck in mud up to your frame with the truck you've built? You can also use snatch blocks to double and triple your line pull, so you might be able to get away with a smaller winch if you play it smart.
 
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are you going by yourself or to organized runs .we all have winches but they are rarely used.it takes way to long to rig and pull we mostly use 80,000 lb straps.a good 10,000 lb winch and a snatch block will net about 20,000 lbs of pull ,+ running the tires should get you out of most anything.running 48 and 52" tires on our trucks when were stuck it usually takes a slight tug to get us out.organized mud bashes usually have a tractor or skidder to get you out.not to mention other folks like to show off pulling you out.good luck
 
hydraulic or electric winch

i have been doing the research, i will be ok with the 12,000 pound winch. in most sites the rule of thumb is 1.5 x the weight of the vehicle. the next question i have is, should i get hydraulic? i have been looking at the Mile Marker HI12000 Hydraulic Winch. they are more expensive than electric. i will be traveling mostly solo.
 
I run a 12k on a 10 thousand pound utility truck, you may need a snatch block once in a while but a shovel helps make it easier as well, if your winching hills and plucking it off rocks or snow drifts your good to go, But in LA, likely rocks instead of snow,Larry
 
rideglobally said:
i have been doing the research, i will be ok with the 12,000 pound winch. in most sites the rule of thumb is 1.5 x the weight of the vehicle. the next question
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I've done a lot of research recently and came to the same conclusion. Make sure you pick up at least on or two snatch blocks to go with the winch. Remember that the max pull rating on the winch is with one wrap on the drum. Snatch blocks will help you double or triple the pulling power, but at the same time draw out more line from the drum so you are closer to a single wrap.
 
does anyone know how PSI does a 40 series power steering pump puts out? for the mile maker hydraulic winch to work correctly the power steering pump need to put out 15 PSI of pressure. thanks :steer:
 
rideglobally said:
does anyone know how PSI does a 40 series power steering pump puts out? for the mile maker hydraulic winch to work correctly the power steering pump need to put out 15 PSI of pressure. thanks :steer:
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I think your looking for gallons per minute, a flow rate; not PSI. IIRC the factory manual says you want to see 1100-1300 PSI out of the Toyota power steering pump. I do not recall the GPM flow rate though but real world use says the Toyota pumps might flow a little on the low side for a MM winch.

:cheers:

Nick
 
Go hydro....you will never regret it. Average PS Pump is 1,200 to 1,500 PSI and 3.5 to 4gpm. My hydro runs great off the OEM Pump. Running a front & rear Hydro 12k's on one of my cruisers.
 
Yes...I would buy nothing else..own three (3) of these on two trucks. Many advantages which I won;t get in to here. Advantages are well known and documented.

rideglobally said:
i have been doing the research, i will be ok with the 12,000 pound winch. in most sites the rule of thumb is 1.5 x the weight of the vehicle. the next question i have is, should i get hydraulic? i have been looking at the Mile Marker HI12000 Hydraulic Winch. they are more expensive than electric. i will be traveling mostly solo.
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[FONT=Calibri, Verdana, Helvetica, Arial]I called Toyota North America today. Lucked out and got a guy who owns an 80 Series and is building it I told him about IH8MUD and may have sold him on an IBS Dual Battery or Perfect Switch Dual Battery system over a National Luna and a MM Hydro Winch over an Warn Electric...:)

He stated the manual states 1,351 PSI at Idle with the Valve closed. This is the Minimum Specification. He claims Toyota is conservative with their ratings. This spec indicates that the PS Pump will operate reliably all the way down to this pressure.

Toyota does not seem to publish a maximum rating but based on the way Toyota rates things, he was confident it would put out more than the minimum rating.

In discussing this with both Toyota & Mile Marker, everything seems to indicate 1,500psi / 4gpm is most likely what the pump is putting out ... or at the very least the rating closer to the desired spec verses the lower Minimum Spec.

The Minimum Spec is where you start having trouble and the pump and it would be declared “defective” ... Hope this info helps.
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zebrabeefj40 said:
I think your looking for gallons per minute, a flow rate; not PSI. IIRC the factory manual says you want to see 1100-1300 PSI out of the Toyota power steering pump. I do not recall the GPM flow rate though but real world use says the Toyota pumps might flow a little on the low side for a MM winch.

:cheers:

Nick
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fhultgr said:
If you want high capacity and have PTO, I would have mounted hydraulic.
My Brevini 12000 can winch all day long up 22 meter a minute.
Land Cruiser winch, hydraulic
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I've been drooling over your setup for a while now! I have a couple question for you though. Did you install a cooler (similar to the transmission cooler) in front of the radiator? I would rather keep the fluid cool that way than to have the big tank taking up room in the trunk. Also, I don't know much about the PTO on an 80 series. Can you power the wheels and the pump at the same time?

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96r50 said:
I've been drooling over your setup for a while now! I have a couple question for you though. Did you install a cooler (similar to the transmission cooler) in front of the radiator? I would rather keep the fluid cool that way than to have the big tank taking up room in the trunk. Also, I don't know much about the PTO on an 80 series. Can you power the wheels and the pump at the same time?

I can power the winch and weels at the same time.
There is no need for a big tank, like the one I made :-)
I am going to redisign it, make it smaller.
The one I have now can take 100 liters, I think 50 liter will be enough.

http://www.sugarlump.no/cruiser/80_Winch.html
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