4" OME MAF kit w/reverse Shackles - Yes or No

[S&S1stCruzer]

Ok my eyes are strained from reading all the threads I could find about lifts. But couldn't find anyone mentioning that they ran this lift.

Any body have this kit on thier FJ60? Good or bad comments about this setup?

I'm really close to picking one up.

 

[krzyabncanuck]

I can not talk about their lift kits but I know there is alot of views on SR kits. I have one on my 60 and would never do it again. Like i said though there is alot of different views on this.

HTH

 

[S&S1stCruzer]

Hmmm interesting, I been here all day reading the pros and cons, I read the MAF explaination on it seemed to make sense but then they're the ones selling the product to.

Do you know if the the extra amount of lift comes from the SR or from some other part of the kit? (such as the leafs)

 

[High Desert]

Friend of mine went SR with his OME lift on his 89 fj62. He did not like the ass end being higher than the front (which is the intended design). All he changed was adding the SR, I think it brought the front up 3 or 4 ". Now unloaded it is level, but he added the long range tank and Kaymar bumper/tire carrier. I have not seen it loaded up so don't know if it goes ass low or not.

 

[crackerjack]

Talk to Malcolm or Robert at MAF. They were not that big on SR whenI talked to them. It sounds like if you are going to use the rig for serious rock crawling then it is good but as a driver it is not. I am new to all this and took them at their word. They did the heavy lift on mine with a longer shackle and it gave me avout 3 1/2" without the SR.

 

[S&S1stCruzer]

Talk to Malcolm or Robert at MAF. They were not that big on SR whenI talked to them. It sounds like if you are going to use the rig for serious rock crawling then it is good but as a driver it is not. I am new to all this and took them at their word. They did the heavy lift on mine with a longer shackle and it gave me avout 3 1/2" without the SR.

What sizes tires and wheels are you running with this lift.

 

[brett76]

Talk to Malcolm or Robert at MAF. They were not that big on SR whenI talked to them. It sounds like if you are going to use the rig for serious rock crawling then it is good but as a driver it is not. I am new to all this and took them at their word. They did the heavy lift on mine with a longer shackle and it gave me avout 3 1/2" without the SR.

thats the route i think im going to go. just build a kit with dakkar springs etc and buy the longer shackles seperately

 

[accasbel]

I have it, and am most happy... Fits 35's with very little rubbing.

It seems jittery at freeway speeds, not sure if it's the steering, or the geometry.

Offroading is awesome.

 

[brett76]

I have it, and am most happy... Fits 35's with very little rubbing.

It seems jittery at freeway speeds, not sure if it's the steering, or the geometry.

Offroading is awesome.

when you say very little rubbing, do yu mean under full articulation? do you have a pic?

 

[cahilc]

I played with doing a shackle reversal for a while ... backed off ... for now.

First it's a major one way move. I'm sure it might be possible to undo but you have to cut off your front shackle hangers and *should* weld on the SR replacement hanger. Ugh.

Second geometry changes on axle articulation. Here I have enough knowledge to be extremely dangerous. If you are building for a dedicated trail rig ... Shackle Reversal is the way to go. If you rig sees way more asphault than rock ... be causious of a SR.

I have not excluded doing an SR in the future but I first wanted to do the lift and get use to the higher ride and larger tires before a SR.

Most likely too you will be playing ... "Which rear shackle length is correct ???" to dial in the correct vehicle rake (front/rear lean).

SR's are great but this is definitely not a trivial mod.

HTH,
Cahil

 

[S&S1stCruzer]

I played with doing a shackle reversal for a while ... backed off ... for now.

First it's a major one way move. I'm sure it might be possible to undo but you have to cut off your front shackle hangers and *should* weld on the SR replacement hanger. Ugh.

Second geometry changes on axle articulation. Here I have enough knowledge to be extremely dangerous. If you are building for a dedicated trail rig ... Shackle Reversal is the way to go. If you rig sees way more asphault than rock ... be causious of a SR.

I have not excluded doing an SR in the future but I first wanted to do the lift and get use to the higher ride and larger tires before a SR.

Most likely too you will be playing ... "Which rear shackle length is correct ???" to dial in the correct vehicle rake (front/rear lean).

SR's are great but this is definitely not a trivial mod.

HTH,
Cahil

Well I'll continue to keep on reading on SR's. It wouldn't be my daily driver and I've heard of the whats the right shackle length question before but figured the kit ruled that question out.

Can you get the 4" inch lift without the SR?

 

[S&S1stCruzer]

I have it, and am most happy... Fits 35's with very little rubbing.

It seems jittery at freeway speeds, not sure if it's the steering, or the geometry.

Offroading is awesome.

How is when you get hard on the brakes on the pavement? Does it nose dive much?

Did you have modify your drive shaft?

 

[dieselcruiserhead]

OME is a 2.5" lift. IMO the way MAF and others get "4 inches of lift" is BS including their godaweful SR kit. I hate to say it but btbprod.com makes a 4" lift spring, and Alcan can make them 4" or higher custom. OME is great but small IMO. I would try to get a dedicated 4" or higher spring if you want that lift IMO..

 

[stinkyfj60]

I really dont like the idea of a SR. I dont want my front tires moving back out of the way of an object. I want them moving towards objects, putting pressure on them for traction. Specially going up hill when the weight isnt on the front end.

 

[89s rule]

Well I'll continue to keep on reading on SR's. It wouldn't be my daily driver and I've heard of the whats the right shackle length question before but figured the kit ruled that question out.

Can you get the 4" inch lift without the SR?

Alcan makes a 4" or whatever lift you want as stated b/f. But, unlike stated b/f If you want more than a 4" lift you really should go SOA. I love my 4" Alcan lift wife even said you can hardly tell its there. Except for her having to really try to get in it

I would say 35's will rub on mine if I ever try to run them. (I have 33's now and they will rub inside the fenders if they have no shocks.)
If I do go up to 35's I will have to regear and will probably add a small BL.


You need to decide what size tires you want to run then go from there. I decided against a SR from my readings on here. Basically heard it is more for a SOA than SUA.

Hope this helps you somewhat.

 

[Team Zissou]

S&S-

I just put on the MAF kit with SR. Finished Friday, took it wheeling with the Hoosier Cruisers and FJ Trail Team on Saturday. Their 4" kit does provide proper shackle length for getting the right stance, mine is the white 60 with 70's-style brown/ugly brown/turd brown striping in a couple photos on this thread: https://forum.ih8mud.com/showthread.php?t=86039

My purposes were to gain an additional 1.5" of lift while still going with OME springs, ultimately to put 35s under it. Unless you run OME springs already and go back later to reverse the shackles, it would be impossible to tell if I got any gains from purely the SR. I will say the truck sits real nice and the difference from stock springs to OME was phenomenal on the trail. Highway steering was slightly jittery at speed, but it was before as well (I was running 33s with a stock steering stabilizer). You could theoretically go back later for the SR, but it's a lot of additional work and I wanted the lift.

And for the record, I slipped my front driveshaft twice and will be extending it about an inch and a half shortly.

 

[krzyabncanuck]

I should add i have the 4 1/2 inch Alcans with the SR and am running 35's with no rubbing or cutting of my fenders and have flexed the heck out of it.

 

[S&S1stCruzer]

I should add i have the 4 1/2 inch Alcans with the SR and am running 35's with no rubbing or cutting of my fenders and have flexed the heck out of it.

Do you have pics?

 

[Aseif007]

"And for the record, I slipped my front driveshaft twice and will be extending it about an inch and a half shortly"

Is this why everybody is so scared of the SR? What are some more reasons, not including the fact that the axle moving away from the obstacle?

 

[brett76]

i dont see why 35's would rub with a 4 nch lift is it really a problem undr flex? what about 34's?