I haven't. I definitely could be full of crap or completely out of touch with V6 design advancement. If they are able to get idle torque out of a V6 now then that's awesome and definitely addresses what has been a short coming of the V6 in a heavy off-road platform.
300 series rumors???
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I haven't. I definitely could be full of crap or completely out of touch with V6 design advancement. If they are able to get idle torque out of a V6 now then that's awesome and definitely addresses what has been a short coming of the V6 in a heavy off-road platform.
So are there any actual rumors in this thread? lol
I'll throw my guesses into the mix.
Land Cruisers usually rely on last generation (compared to general market) technology perfected. So based on auto industry trends, I'd guess:
I'll throw my guesses into the mix.
Land Cruisers usually rely on last generation (compared to general market) technology perfected. So based on auto industry trends, I'd guess:
- Electric steering
- Direct Injection
- Toyota's not big on turbos in the US. I'd guess they stick with the V8. Variable compression ratio would be cool, but see my original premise. I don't see them dropping the V8 unless Range Rover and Audi do.
- More safety features like crash avoidance, autonomous driving features similar to the Volvo XC90
- Bigger nav screen, more stereo watts
- More clever third row design
- Built in wifi
- Maybe slightly larger stock tire size.
- More transmission gears: 9. Pipe dream would be dual clutch auto.
- Lighter using high strength steel and aluminum body panels, new adhesives in place of some hardware.
- Whatever luxury features were in the Range Rover 5 years ago.
- Increased tow rating.
- And we'll all hate how it looks for 10 years. But no changes that really help off road.
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Ha! That last one is so true!
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Man toyota keeps a tight lip... my guess we will hear about the new Land Cruiser 1 month before it hits he showroom floor...
My guess is that it will be a lowered 2000hp, 220 mph SUV lol
Be afraid: Toyota has built a 2,000bhp, 220mph Land Cruiser
My guess is that it will be a lowered 2000hp, 220 mph SUV lol
Be afraid: Toyota has built a 2,000bhp, 220mph Land Cruiser
Times change. A few years ago, Land Cruiser loyalists were mad as hell that Toyota dumped the I-6.
As wealth and obesity rates in Australia and the US continue to grow, so goes the luxury Land Cruiser.
I doubt they'll move away from the V8. The international versions still use V8s even in the diesel (twin turbo V8 anyone?!). I can't think of any independent rear suspension trucks that have similar tow rating to the 200. I doubt they'd sacrifice that since it's the best tow vehicle in its class. And towing somewhat justifies the V8 and owning a truck this size.
Forget torque, Ford has had trouble getting them to go down the road without going into limp mode.
As much as I love my 200, I'm still "mad as hell" that we can't get a 70 series here. Whoever at Toyota that doesn't think they'd sell here has their head up their keister. There is a reason the Jeep Wrangler, which continues to decrease in quality, has increases in sales every year. IMHO, the FJ Cruiser was a miss as it was a bit funky for mainstream, but a 70 series here would be a best seller (maybe they don't want the competition with the T4R).
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Biggest problem in the FJ Cruiser (IMHO) is the visibility is TERRIBLE. Especially out the front windshield. It feels as though you're looking out of a narrow tube because not only is the windshield SHORT...but it's also very far forward of you. This means that even leaning forward and looking up doesn't help because you're sooo far back of it. I love the look of the vehicle, but the visibility just killed it for me immediately. I want to SEE all the beautiful places I drive...and not through a tube.
Agreed. When they first released the FJ Cruiser pictures, I was really excited. Test drove a 2007 and had the same feeling as you, felt like the blind spots out the rear were really bad and the visibility out the front wasn't any better. I was pretty bummed. Ended up buying a Tacoma instead.
One thing I loved about the Fj-60 was the visibility. We called it the fish tank, because you could see everything. Should have kept it.
I think that's only true in the enthusiast world. The Wrangler is a decent "car" for people who don't plan to use it off-road (still a cool looking convertible SUV). And despite it's solid axles, it's pretty modern and gets fairly luxurious. I don't think the 70-series would sell well here. Super dated safety standards, dated interior design and ammenities and dated exterior, and it'd be too expensive to compete with American work trucks.
It's great for what it is: a commercial vehicle for moving equipment/supplies over bad roads. But we have nice roads and cheap work trucks. So we don't value reliability over third world road conditions as much . Even the commercial users are starting to ditch the 70-series because it doesn't meet modern safety standards. It needs an update. Jeep seems to be considering making an HD Wagon version of the upcoming JL Wrangler. If they do, it'll probably compete directly for the industrial contracts keeping the 70-series alive. It seems like a lot of 70/200-series users internationally would rather have American full-size trucks but can't get them. We forget that in other places it's not normal for normal people to be able to buy 2500 and 3500 trucks. And it sounds like South Africans seem to wish Jeeps were more affordable there, because it's the fun exotic option there, much like LCs and LRs here. Everyone wants what they can't have.
I know the 2016+ single cab 70 has a 5 star crash rating. It does not have all the saftey bells and whistles, but many vehicles do not. It does have a collapsible steering wheel and reinforced doors. I would feel comfortable driving one.
And while the wrangler can get spec'd put nice, it is not a practical on road vehicle, and also has low crash ratings.
Visibility is only bad out to the front and up. And also forward to the front quarters, due to those large mirrors. Oh, and also to both rear three quarters, due to the thick C-pillar. Oh, and also the rear, due to the small rear window which is half obscured by the spare tire.
But other than that, visibility in the FJ Cruiser is great.
Oddly enough, Toyota only improved the crash rating on the single cab 70. The single cab 70 has airbags for 2016+. The double cab 70 does not. Weird.
Strange. I thought I read that they call got the airbags but crash tests were only performed on the single cab.
Stripped out versions just would NOT work here. It's a nice dream like how I would like a diesel 200 but it just won't happen. I have more chances of getting a diesel 200 then a stripped out version let alone a 70 series being sold here.
A stripped out FJ or LC would work here if it's $25k-$30k max. That's why the BRZ and FR-S can hold their own.
I know most don't like the DVD player and the ventilated front seats but without them how many units do you think would Toyota be shifting? Enough to make it decide what they did in the UK - stop selling it.
We live in an Amazon Prime-disposable everything-society.
I'm glad it has these luxury features because that's how I was able to buy mine used. It's the reason Porsche fits GT3's with navigation systems as options but no hi-fi options...
A stripped out FJ or LC would work here if it's $25k-$30k max. That's why the BRZ and FR-S can hold their own.
I know most don't like the DVD player and the ventilated front seats but without them how many units do you think would Toyota be shifting? Enough to make it decide what they did in the UK - stop selling it.
We live in an Amazon Prime-disposable everything-society.
I'm glad it has these luxury features because that's how I was able to buy mine used. It's the reason Porsche fits GT3's with navigation systems as options but no hi-fi options...
No. Apparently they put the airbags in the single cab because the mining companies buy the single cab, and they wanted the improved crash rating.
Watch this and fast forward to around 14:50 or so:
Guess we are talking about two different things. You indicated that only the single had airbags. All the 70s have airbags, the single cab just has extra bags.
The other versions have been upgraded for safety though. And the newest version has hill start assist, traction control, etc. I would pay for one simply for the reliability this setup is know for.
Ah, OK. I misunderstood the video. I still think they should all have side curtain airbags, however. Even my '03 4Runner had side curtain airbags.
