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I would definitely be interested in a set (5) of these for my SOA FJ45 project. What sort of timeline are we looking at?
Steve
P.S. You may want to cross-post in the Tire and Wheel forum.
We should know more later this week.
255/100/16 interested?
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We should know more later this week.
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My 37 MtOz's were quite nice aired down at 8ply and im running real light at stock weight on a trimmed down 80 -this tire would really be more of an XZL type dual duty tire vs a true crawler tire- for the 55/60/80/100 crowd thats not crawler centric---probably not a huge issue due to portly wagon status. 40s might have more issues---but to clearance 36s (even skinny ones) you probably are sprung over or 4" under min.....and have some heavy mods(bumpers n gear) to bring it up over 4500lbs.
Of course- all speculation- will need to grab some for durability/chunking/airing down/ noise comparisons/ roundness/etc etc testing.
he only said this would be michelin type. not michelin brand, hence the reason we still want to know who the manufacturer will be. i'm not looking to run tires run out of the garage next to cheng shin.
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I am interested in 5 but want more info
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Too many Racer5's to be thinking that lucidly at time of post.
Mods can delete if its not creating enough tech/debate in each if need be
I'll keep it "tech" by asking how you figured this tire would fit "up to a 2.5" lift with a little trimming"
If by little trimming you mean removing the inner fender wells, than maybe.
Sounds similar to the STA Super Lug in 9.00-16LT.
http://www.stausaonline.com/light-truck/superlug.html
http://www.stausaonline.com/light-truck/superlug.html
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yes- fairly similar except the STA is a bias ply tire.
This one is radial- 8ply with tread of Michelin XZL
This one is radial- 8ply with tread of Michelin XZL
jstncse
Crawling over something
I would be interested. I'm the tall skinny type of guy as it is, although I would have to sell the 255/85-16's that are on my 40 now.
Honestly my dream tire size is 35 x 10.5.
If I could get that in something other than a swamper say in a Toyo MT I would be sold.
If I could get that in something other than a swamper say in a Toyo MT I would be sold.
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same here- 35/36 x 10.5 would be great on all fronts- steering feel/gearing match--its just too bad the only options are bias or wobbly out of round poor quality control makes.
Add to the list the ability to go over the 100km/hr aka 62mph limitation with the Michelin XL, XML and XZL tires. That is one drawback for the long-hauls to places like Moab. Personally setting up my FJ45 to cruise at 70mph+ all day long on the way to the trails.
Steve
Steve
Hi All.
This sounds interesting, but there are a few things that you need to keep in mind.
-The michelin 255/100R16 is a very heavy Tyre, it is a killer of wheel bearings, half shafts and diff, not to talk about braking performances.
-It wear very quickly, most users on Bremach and Iveco dailly in Europe and Isuzu canters in Australia, don't get a lot of kilometers out of them, 20K km and they are already well done, rarely get up to 40K km rotating them and watchign them carefully. Seems like anything over 100KM/h and they melt like snow.
-The tire is super stiff, made to carry very high loads, and not adapted to the wight of most LC's
-It is very loud on road.
Now for the good points, it is a great tire for african tracks, does very well in sand and not bad in mud. pressure always need to adapted to the terrain but that is also true for most other tires to get the best of them.
-I know a chinese copy of this michelin, called YS22, from yellowsea. It look great, but apparently also run loud and wear in strange pattern as the michelin.
I suspect them to also have copy the tyre body, since it is written single sidewall ply in steel as the michelin. It is used mostly on the military iveco dailly (old version) used by the army and some authorities.
As for the design of a new tyre, that could be great but to make the tyre body more flexible and more adapted to the weights of SUV's and not trucks that might make the side wall too soft to cope with side forces while cornering on the road.
and if designing a new tyre, you might as well rework the thread pattern to make it better on and offroad
. Tough project thought
I will be following this, i like this tyre size and i am sure other would be interested to have this alternative for their SUV's and light trucks, such as iveco dailly 4x4, the new one, the 4wd conversion of a few europeen trucks, the austrlaians like ATW or earthcamper etc etc, there is a small word outside the army's using this tyres and everybody is looking for a good or better and more cost effective alternative to the Michelin.
This sounds interesting, but there are a few things that you need to keep in mind.
-The michelin 255/100R16 is a very heavy Tyre, it is a killer of wheel bearings, half shafts and diff, not to talk about braking performances.
-It wear very quickly, most users on Bremach and Iveco dailly in Europe and Isuzu canters in Australia, don't get a lot of kilometers out of them, 20K km and they are already well done, rarely get up to 40K km rotating them and watchign them carefully. Seems like anything over 100KM/h and they melt like snow.
-The tire is super stiff, made to carry very high loads, and not adapted to the wight of most LC's
-It is very loud on road.
Now for the good points, it is a great tire for african tracks, does very well in sand and not bad in mud. pressure always need to adapted to the terrain but that is also true for most other tires to get the best of them.
-I know a chinese copy of this michelin, called YS22, from yellowsea. It look great, but apparently also run loud and wear in strange pattern as the michelin.
I suspect them to also have copy the tyre body, since it is written single sidewall ply in steel as the michelin. It is used mostly on the military iveco dailly (old version) used by the army and some authorities.
As for the design of a new tyre, that could be great but to make the tyre body more flexible and more adapted to the weights of SUV's and not trucks that might make the side wall too soft to cope with side forces while cornering on the road.
and if designing a new tyre, you might as well rework the thread pattern to make it better on and offroad
. Tough project thoughtI will be following this, i like this tyre size and i am sure other would be interested to have this alternative for their SUV's and light trucks, such as iveco dailly 4x4, the new one, the 4wd conversion of a few europeen trucks, the austrlaians like ATW or earthcamper etc etc, there is a small word outside the army's using this tyres and everybody is looking for a good or better and more cost effective alternative to the Michelin.
I'm definitely in. Wonder what the per tire price w/ shipping would be from Vrakking for a full 20" container?
hj 60
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It is a 40 kilo tire: http://www.aircrafttyres.com/900r16__255_100r16 michelin XZL.htm
Specifications 9.00R16 or 255/100R16 XZL(±):
Width : 255 mm
Diameter: 923 mm
Weight : 40 kg
Technical Information from michelin site for new 255/100R16 XZL tyres:
Technical tyre catalogue
255/100 R 16 XZL TL 126K The actual measurements could change with the creation of new tread patterns. For design of new vehicles, use the ETRTO "box" or consult us. Michelin reference 110650 Ply rating Unique point 134/128 J Nominal load per axle - single fitment (kg) 3400 Nominal load per axle - twinned fitment (kg) 6400 Nominal pressure in bars (single fitment) 4.50 Nominal pressure in bars (twinned fitment) 4.50 Nominal pressure in bars (unique point) 5.75 Wheel recommended 6.50H ETRTO section (mm) 260 ETRTO diameter (mm) 936 Free section (mm) 255 Free diameter (mm) 923 Crushed section (mm) 286 Crushed radius (mm) 426 Rolling circumference (mm) 2798 Minimum distance between axle centres (mm) 288 Tread depth (mm) 16.5 Regrooving depth (mm) Weight in kg 39.90 Tube Flap Sealing ring Regulation 54 007700 ETRTO approved rims 6.50H
Single fitment pressure 3.0 3.25 3.5 3.75 4.0 4.25 4.5
load per axle 2430 2590 2750 2910 3080 3240 3400
Twinned fitment pressure 3.0 3.25 3.5 3.75 4.0 4.25 4.5
load per axle 4570 4880 5180 5490 5790 6100 6400
Specifications 9.00R16 or 255/100R16 XZL(±):
Width : 255 mm
Diameter: 923 mm
Weight : 40 kg
Technical Information from michelin site for new 255/100R16 XZL tyres:
Technical tyre catalogue
255/100 R 16 XZL TL 126K The actual measurements could change with the creation of new tread patterns. For design of new vehicles, use the ETRTO "box" or consult us. Michelin reference 110650 Ply rating Unique point 134/128 J Nominal load per axle - single fitment (kg) 3400 Nominal load per axle - twinned fitment (kg) 6400 Nominal pressure in bars (single fitment) 4.50 Nominal pressure in bars (twinned fitment) 4.50 Nominal pressure in bars (unique point) 5.75 Wheel recommended 6.50H ETRTO section (mm) 260 ETRTO diameter (mm) 936 Free section (mm) 255 Free diameter (mm) 923 Crushed section (mm) 286 Crushed radius (mm) 426 Rolling circumference (mm) 2798 Minimum distance between axle centres (mm) 288 Tread depth (mm) 16.5 Regrooving depth (mm) Weight in kg 39.90 Tube Flap Sealing ring Regulation 54 007700 ETRTO approved rims 6.50H
Single fitment pressure 3.0 3.25 3.5 3.75 4.0 4.25 4.5
load per axle 2430 2590 2750 2910 3080 3240 3400
Twinned fitment pressure 3.0 3.25 3.5 3.75 4.0 4.25 4.5
load per axle 4570 4880 5180 5490 5790 6100 6400
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