After seeing the issues with the new TNGAF products I think the sequoia looks better and better. LX700H drivetrain, rear locker, 10.5" rear diff, 9500 lbs tow rating, etc. I know it's not a LC but the space between is quite narrow these days and if we are accepting some sloppiness among all these platforms we might as well go with the most robust drivetrain option.
250/550/600/700H vs Sequoia (1 Viewer)
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Capstone really tries to hold the candle to Lexus imo.
I like the Sequoia, but the 250 has better approach/departure angles and is made in Japan. If you need a three row, that simplifies your decision.
I have made every effort to get Japanese made Toyotas, even when I had my Rav4's and the Highlander. Same with even Nissan, I had a Rogue and chose one specifically to be made in Japan... However, I am thinking now that if I am going to get a Made In America, I would get a Toyota made. Have looked at some GM and am not impressed, sadly 
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I am wondering if the third seats are removable
in the Sequoia.
. I am wondering if the third seats are removable
in the Sequoia. - Thread starter
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The other big question is what if any tariffs will effect vehicle purchasesI have made every effort to get Japanese made Toyotas, even when I had my Rav4's and the Highlander. Same with even Nissan, I had a Rogue and chose one specifically to be made in Japan... However, I am thinking now that if I am going to get a Made In America, I would get a Toyota made. Have looked at some GM and am not impressed, sadly
I am wondering if the third seats are removable
I have a 24 Sequoia. Power is fantastic, build quality compared to the Japanese built LC is not. I’ve taken it in to the dealership 6 times in the almost 12 months of ownership. That’s probably triple the amount of times I took my 12 year old (Japanese built) 2012 4Runner I traded in for the Sequoia. Keep in mind, the Sequoia is on the TNGA-F platform.
I wouldnt put too much emphasis on production factory these days after the v35 recall. It seems with TNGA, production systems across the globe operate in unison. What matters more, is qdr focused engineering, program targets and budget, and production number (reliability improves as a mfg builds more units and learns from their mistakes). In addition crowdsourcing technical concerns seem to be of value (forums hold alot of information) since the mfg rarely shares any issues willingly until a recall or tsb campaign is launched.
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What issues were you facing with it?
I put it in a previous post
The interior plastic bits are flimsy in the Sequoia, the seats are firm, and the NVH just isn't up to what I remember from my 4Runner. The Sequoia does ride nice and the powertrain feels very robust, the refinement isn't what I was expecting from a Toyota of this price point. I believe it's mostly down to USA vs. Japan build quality.
Toyota really is missing an opportunity here. The Sequoia should have a Lexus version. I wouldn't necessarily want the lexus version for me, but that's easy money for Toyota. Take LX styling and interior (could literally just share almost all interior components). Add AHC. Add AWD transfer case. Print money.
And the Toyota version should be offered without the hybrid system that messes up the cargo area. All repeated complaints. The one thing that I think Toyota could do for the Sequoia to really improve it is to add a sway bar disconnect, eKDSS, or AHC. Any of the 3 would really help it offroad. The factory setup has really limited suspension travel/flex. A non-hybrid with SDM and locker/MTS would be my dream Sequoia.
It's a bummer about the build quality. I felt the same about the 3rd gen Tundra being a step down in some areas from a gen 2. And even my 2.5Gen Tundra is a bit of a step down from my 5G 4R from Japan. Nothing is broken. Nothing is rattling or has fallen apart. And it's been near flawless mechanically (at 100k the only thing I've done is a fan belt tensioner that was squeaking). The 4R needed a diff needle bearing under warranty and recalls for the airbags and fuel pump. But Tundra doesn't have the same feeling of precision or quality that my 4Runner or our Lexus RX350.
I tend to think it's just part of the Tundra/Sequoia program more than location of assembly though. The reason in part is that my RX was built in Canada. My parents have a Highlander and Rav4 that are both built in the USA. Those are similar to the Japanese built ones in my experience. I think i may have more to do with the Tundra program than the location it was built. I just don't like a lot of the choices that Toyota made with the Tundra and Sequoia - from styling to compromises on body size/layout to powertrain options. It's a series of stumbles that didn't need to happen. And I think it flows from the design down to the end product lacking a level of end quality that is lower than other Toyota products.
And the Toyota version should be offered without the hybrid system that messes up the cargo area. All repeated complaints. The one thing that I think Toyota could do for the Sequoia to really improve it is to add a sway bar disconnect, eKDSS, or AHC. Any of the 3 would really help it offroad. The factory setup has really limited suspension travel/flex. A non-hybrid with SDM and locker/MTS would be my dream Sequoia.
It's a bummer about the build quality. I felt the same about the 3rd gen Tundra being a step down in some areas from a gen 2. And even my 2.5Gen Tundra is a bit of a step down from my 5G 4R from Japan. Nothing is broken. Nothing is rattling or has fallen apart. And it's been near flawless mechanically (at 100k the only thing I've done is a fan belt tensioner that was squeaking). The 4R needed a diff needle bearing under warranty and recalls for the airbags and fuel pump. But Tundra doesn't have the same feeling of precision or quality that my 4Runner or our Lexus RX350.
I tend to think it's just part of the Tundra/Sequoia program more than location of assembly though. The reason in part is that my RX was built in Canada. My parents have a Highlander and Rav4 that are both built in the USA. Those are similar to the Japanese built ones in my experience. I think i may have more to do with the Tundra program than the location it was built. I just don't like a lot of the choices that Toyota made with the Tundra and Sequoia - from styling to compromises on body size/layout to powertrain options. It's a series of stumbles that didn't need to happen. And I think it flows from the design down to the end product lacking a level of end quality that is lower than other Toyota products.
Approach angle is a bit of an issue for the Sequoia off road. Should be easy enough to address.
I agree with everything you said. For this price point, Toyota should be offering the same full time 4WD with locking center diff as the LC 250 on all 4wd Tundra/Sequoia twins. I honestly really like the hybrid system in the Sequoia. If Toyota would release an OEM 3rd row delete system that would make me happy.
As for the quality, I made the comparison of USA vs Japan solely on my experience. I had an 05 RAV4 (80k miles), 2012 4Runner (175k miles), and 2024 Sequoia. The 2012 4Runner was the best built of those 3.
