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I'm still looking at buying a 2013 200, I take forever to make a decision.

I have been looking at new 2013 and have noticed a large disparity in prices online. New 2013s from $70k to $85k. Since the LC has all standard features, why such a difference? What are most of you guys actually paying? Also, when will the 2014s hit show rooms?

David
 
shop around

Shop around, I paid 70K but had to shop around about 2 weeks. no regrets, great fun to drive and solid.

Chuck
Murphy, NC
1996 FJ80
2013 200
 
I went through the Costco Auto Program to get mine for $70k - with a great trade-in on my Sequoia. If you're a Costco member you should give it a look see.
 
I went through the Costco Auto Program to get mine for $70k - with a great trade-in on my Sequoia. If you're a Costco member you should give it a look see.

How would you compare your sequoia and LC? The tundra and sequoia are very similar, same engine, interior, size etc...

I'm thinking $70k sounds reasonable, I'm hoping I can get a $35k difference in my trade in and purchase price.
 
How would you compare your sequoia and LC? The tundra and sequoia are very similar, same engine, interior, size etc...

I'm thinking $70k sounds reasonable, I'm hoping I can get a $35k difference in my trade in and purchase price.

They are just very different vehicles, built for very different purposes. The Sequoia is an on-road driver that will haul groceries and kids with great aplomb. The Land Cruiser is a capable off-road vehicle with excellent on-road manners.

Yes, I know there are those folks who put lift kits, winches, skid plates, huge tires, etc. on their Sequoias and are very happy. But, are they ever really equal to the Land Cruiser? IMHO, no.

Just go and test drive a 2013 Land Cruiser and compare it to your Tundra. 'nuff said.
 
Gotcha, I have test driven several 2013s and will need the off road capabilities. We have a 450 acre farm in south Arkansas full of tails, mud holes, rivers etc. I also sell many farms or recreational properties that can be tricky to get around unless you have a good 4x4.
 
around 70 should be the price; in the usa all come with the north american option list only exterior and interior color will vary. In other parts of the world they have more options which will be similar to the LX570. Shop around; if you can come here to new jersey there is a dealership here with 2 and they are very willing to deal (the guy keeps calling me to come back but I don't want a white one).
 
Also wondering what you guys would do to a 200 for pulling a trailer often?

Small cargo trailer, not very heavy...
 
HotSpringsHog said:
Also wondering what you guys would do to a 200 for pulling a trailer often?

Small cargo trailer, not very heavy...

Trailer brake controller and a Tekonsha direct wiring adapter part number 3040-P and call it done. That is what I've done.

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Several of you said you paid $70M for new 2013 200 LC. If you look at Edmunds.com it appears that invoice is more than that. I am of the understanding that only 3500 +- LC's are sold annually in US so it appears supply has not exceeded demand. Why are they selling to you guys below invoice?
 
Several of you said you paid $70M for new 2013 200 LC. If you look at Edmunds.com it appears that invoice is more than that. I am of the understanding that only 3500 +- LC's are sold annually in US so it appears supply has not exceeded demand. Why are they selling to you guys below invoice?

Sounds as if you may have asked and answered correctly all at one time. I suspect that Toyota has begun to price themselves out of a very unique market that they created.

While there are many that like this vehicle for it's offroad prowess mixed with the ultimate luxury, you look around at the typical LC Driver (the people who actually buy the vast majority of these vehicles in the US), well, that is just a different person all-together. For those of us that love our Land Cruisers, nothing else will do, but there is some strong, if not better competition out there for the aforementioned crowd. The Infinity QX provides a Lexus "equivalent" to this group for the price of a Land Cruiser. Combine this with the fact that GM has somehow made their Chevrolet/GMC/Cadillac SUV's more popular at a full loaded price of respectively $5k/$12k/$14k less than the Land Cruiser, and that is actual current sales price, not difference in stickers. If you look at the resale of the Current GM Clunkers, it held in there also. If this isn't enough to kill the US Land Cruiser, one of these days, Nissan will wake up and bring their Patrol (The Nissan variant of the Current QX and Nissan's direct competitor to the Land Cruiser) to the US Market, which at Nissan's price point, will indeed finish the job.

Everyone stop your blood from boiling, remember, if Toyota can't make this work for the 99%, they can't make it work for us. Simple "the way it should be versus they way it is." I had been awaiting this latest update before I purchased a new Land Cruiser to replace my 2006 100. However, the new price increase has stepped me back and made me start re-thinking the issues I've had with overpriced keys, dealing with timing belts, persnickety brake jobs, odd sized tires, HP vs. Fuel Mileage, impossible third row seats, etc., and that new 404hp new body style 2014 GMC Yukon XL Denali with powerfold rear seats is starting to look mighty appealing...
 
Keep in mind, Toyota builds the LC to have a life span of 25+ years. They offer parts and support for a miminum of 25 years. Do you think you will get that out of Chevy, Dodge, or Ford. Hell, the other day I went in to buy a new coolant hoses for a 1994 Ford F-250 with a 460. The lady said since the truck was more than 10 years old, Ford was not required to keep making those parts.

The LC was built for longevity...the other are not. Period.
 
The United states thought process is to replace every 3 years. LCs are built to last a lifetime. My only gripe is no turbo diesel.
 
Sounds as if you may have asked and answered correctly all at one time. I suspect that Toyota has begun to price themselves out of a very unique market that they created.

While there are many that like this vehicle for it's offroad prowess mixed with the ultimate luxury, you look around at the typical LC Driver (the people who actually buy the vast majority of these vehicles in the US), well, that is just a different person all-together. For those of us that love our Land Cruisers, nothing else will do, but there is some strong, if not better competition out there for the aforementioned crowd. The Infinity QX provides a Lexus "equivalent" to this group for the price of a Land Cruiser. Combine this with the fact that GM has somehow made their Chevrolet/GMC/Cadillac SUV's more popular at a full loaded price of respectively $5k/$12k/$14k less than the Land Cruiser, and that is actual current sales price, not difference in stickers. If you look at the resale of the Current GM Clunkers, it held in there also. If this isn't enough to kill the US Land Cruiser, one of these days, Nissan will wake up and bring their Patrol (The Nissan variant of the Current QX and Nissan's direct competitor to the Land Cruiser) to the US Market, which at Nissan's price point, will indeed finish the job.

Everyone stop your blood from boiling, remember, if Toyota can't make this work for the 99%, they can't make it work for us. Simple "the way it should be versus they way it is." I had been awaiting this latest update before I purchased a new Land Cruiser to replace my 2006 100. However, the new price increase has stepped me back and made me start re-thinking the issues I've had with overpriced keys, dealing with timing belts, persnickety brake jobs, odd sized tires, HP vs. Fuel Mileage, impossible third row seats, etc., and that new 404hp new body style 2014 GMC Yukon XL Denali with powerfold rear seats is starting to look mighty appealing...

Where did you find 2014 Yukon info?

I do here what your saying, I have both and there are pro's and cons to both. The LC is the most solid well built machine I have ever owned. That said my 6.2L 4x4 Tahoe is very comforatble and gets the same job done for me, I enjoy it as well. For the money unless you need the offroad and or expect or demand the level of quality you get from the LC, its a hard 10-20K extra to spend. I have plans to get rid of my LC, just that I understand what your saying. Toyota has sort of been pricing themselves out the market.

I am guessing there must be some dealer cash or rebates out there, or I am not sure how these dealers are selling below invoice. I know there was a pretty sizable amount of dealer cash behind the seens to help clear out the 11's last year. I suspect that is how these 13s are going for under invoice.
 
I guess I am not finding the edit button on this forum, I will fix my last post this way. That should have read I do not have any plans of getting rid of my LC.

Why is these no edit button?
 
Also wondering what you guys would do to a 200 for pulling a trailer often?

Small cargo trailer, not very heavy...


Most small cargo trailers do not have brakes, so you will probably not need anything specail. I pull a 6000 pound boat with my LC from time to time. The LC, is actually a great vehichle to pull with, good power, and very, very stable. My boat has serge brakes so I have not had to add a controller.

If you are pulling a trailer with electric brakes weighing over 3000 pounds or so, a brake controller is really good ideal.
 
with regards to the price; the land cruiser has a much less refined interior compared to the LX570; so most people look at both and then decide on the lexus. I think its like 2 or 3 lx to 1 land cruiser for the usa market.
 
Is anyone aware of extra incentives on 2013 LC's for buyers or Toyota offering to dealers. I presume there are some Toyota dealers or sales people that read the blog. I doubt they want to share any info but the dealer that I have purchased several LC's from over the past 12 years wasn't to excited about selling one for under invoice.
 
Is anyone aware of extra incentives on 2013 LC's for buyers or Toyota offering to dealers. I presume there are some Toyota dealers or sales people that read the blog. I doubt they want to share any info but the dealer that I have purchased several LC's from over the past 12 years wasn't to excited about selling one for under invoice.

I don't pretend to understand all the flim-flam that goes on behind closed doors at car dealerships, but when one does a search on Cars.com for brand new 2013 Land Cruisers, there are several offered by dealers for less than US$70,000.

Here's one example in Georgia with 5 miles on the odo:

http://www.cars.com/go/search/detail.jsp?tracktype=newcc&csDlId=&csDgId=&listingId=96843441&listingRecNum=11&criteria=sf1Dir%3DASC%26mkId%3D20088%26stkTyp%3DN%26mdId%3D21381%26rd%3D10000%26crSrtFlds%3DstkTypId-feedSegId-mkId-mdId%26zc%3D84783%26rn%3D0%26PMmt%3D1-1-0%26stkTypId%3D28880%26sf2Dir%3DASC%26sf1Nm%3Dprice%26sf2Nm%3Dlocation%26isDealerGrouping%3Dfalse%26rpp%3D50%26feedSegId%3D28705&aff=national&listType=1

Perhaps if you print out a few of these listings and bring them to your dealer iot would, at least, be good fodder for a discussion about how selling a car for "less than invoice" is possible.

HTH
 
Keep in mind, Toyota builds the LC to have a life span of 25+ years. They offer parts and support for a miminum of 25 years. Do you think you will get that out of Chevy, Dodge, or Ford. Hell, the other day I went in to buy a new coolant hoses for a 1994 Ford F-250 with a 460. The lady said since the truck was more than 10 years old, Ford was not required to keep making those parts.

The LC was built for longevity...the other are not. Period.

That is why you should never buy a new one! Only buy a used with good service records.
 

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