2008 Transmission Oil Analysis at 92K

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I recently did a transmission oil exchange and sent a sample of the old fluid to a lab to be analyzed. I have never had transmission fluid analyzed before and will not pretend to completely understand the lab report. In fact I am interested to hear from those with more experience on the matter concerning the report. I sent this sample in hoping that this would be a useful reference for other owners here to look at in case they are considering changing out earlier than the recommended mileage. Please note that the fluid was not deemed "Severe" but was rated "Abnormal." Tin, copper, and acid were found in excess and the viscosity may or may not have been up to the anticipated spec (not sure what it should be).
I had a Toyota Dealer conduct the exchange and I brought in Amsoil Signature Series fluid (Toyota WS compatible) that they replaced the original fluid with. I also had them drop and replace the mesh filter. For those that are interested, I was not having any problems with the vehicle or the transmission, it shifted smooth and have never had any transmission heating problems or lights coming on. Back in the 90's I had the transmission go out on an old accura and ever since then I have done drain and fills at 30k miles. I have had a couple 4runners that I also have done complete exchanges on when they get up over 150k miles. I usually take a minute to note the color of the drained fluid and let that be my (very un-scientific) guide on increasing or decreasing interval timing.
After the service was completed I did not notice any discernible difference in driving, shifting or gas mileage. This has not been the case with other vehicles that I have done complete exchanges with, they usually shift much smoother and seem to perform better. My conclusion from driving the LC leads me to believe that the service interval was not excessive. My conclusion from the lab report makes me wish I had changed it out earlier...
 

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Do you do a full exchange, torque converter and all? How many quarts.
 
Thanks, you do any towing? Off road? Post this on www.bobistheoilguy.com and let us know where you posted so we can follow the comments. I think viscosity is extremely low in WS fluid. I bet this is one of the first they have ever seen since they did not show what the original fluid properties should of been. I always use Blackstone labs and they profile before and after on the oil and then compare based on previously analysis oil in that brand vehicle. Like a ford engine might show more tin or cooper then a Toyota and that would be normal.
 
Could you briefly describe drain/fill process for lc? I have done it on other toyotas but couldn't find the drain plug easily. Did you remove any metal guards? Thx
 
Could you briefly describe drain/fill process for lc? I have done it on other toyotas but couldn't find the drain plug easily. Did you remove any metal guards? Thx

WS fluid needs special handling and temp for changing. I would not even think about fluid exchange on a 200 other then by the dealer or a very knowledgable shop like Slee Off road.
 
Towing once a month, nothing over 4,500 lbs. but always in the mountains.
Not much 4wheeling, mostly kid hauling and grocery getting.
 
Towing once a month, nothing over 4,500 lbs. but always in the mountains.
Not much 4wheeling, mostly kid hauling and grocery getting.

I talked to a fluids engineer about transmission fluid about 15 years ago. He pretty much said what another poster stated. Heat is the major enemy of transmission fluid. If you tow at all or do much mountain driving Lexus recommends 60k transmission fluid changes. I have a mall cruiser that never tows and lives in flat Texas. I will have mine serviced at 100k miles, and then every 50k miles, but not a flush. Just a drain and fill. should be fine based on your results and towing in the mountains.
 
Thanks all for the info! I am still not clear and hoping for an advise. I've got 09 LC with closer to 100k miles, live in TX and do occasional boat tow, once per month or so, no off roading. Just got off the phone with Toyota dealer. They don't recommend the transmission flush, saying it could damage some gasket that potentially could cause a leak, which they would not be responsible for. Transmission flush: $273, if they replace the gasket at the same time it's an additional $486. They recommend just to replace the partial fluid which is $128.

Also, should I replace front, rear and transfer case oil at the same time?

Any feedback is appreciated!
 
Thanks all for the info! I am still not clear and hoping for an advise. I've got 09 LC with closer to 100k miles, live in TX and do occasional boat tow, once per month or so, no off roading. Just got off the phone with Toyota dealer. They don't recommend the transmission flush, saying it could damage some gasket that potentially could cause a leak, which they would not be responsible for. Transmission flush: $273, if they replace the gasket at the same time it's an additional $486. They recommend just to replace the partial fluid which is $128.

Also, should I replace front, rear and transfer case oil at the same time?

Any feedback is appreciated!

I would do just a drain and fill the transmission. We pump in 3 and run it to a certain temp. and drain to a certain level.

Diffs and t/c oils are usually in worst condition at the first 30k service interval. Usually pretty clean at 60k/90k/120k and so on.

If I ever get a chance to own a new 200 series, I would personally change it at the first 10-15k. Once they wear in/break in the oils are much cleaner/less metallic particles on the magnetic plug.

I see/change fluids on various lexus. These are 99.9% on road vehicles.
 

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