somebody can buy it and park it my garage
200 Diesel in Florida!
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Maybe an overstock from an armory? As much as I would love to have one of those, 56k is a bundle of money even if you could get it registered. At 3.50 a gallon the diesels are not quite as attractive to me anymore anyway. My HJ61 gets about 20 mpg and my Taco gets about the same. It just costs 20% more $ to fill up the Cruiser. I guess compared to the gasser version of the 200 at 70k+, 56k is a relative bargain.
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The V in the code indicates ME spec vehicle. Its also cheaper than the base price of $84K AUD in oz.
Its not worth the headaches,an older model with new turbo diesel and all the aftermarket gear would be much more satisfying ,to me anyway.
Its not worth the headaches,an older model with new turbo diesel and all the aftermarket gear would be much more satisfying ,to me anyway.
what is ME spec?
I just spoke with the seller. He represents dealers that are over stocked in Dubai and the ME. This truck happens to be in Belgium. That trucks is not even in the US. He is trying to sell them to people in other countries and have the truck shipped to that country where it can be registered. The trucks cannot even be shipped here. He also lowered the price to 49.5k. It should not even be on ebay.
Gary
Gary
Scam..scam...scam.. There are no diesel LC's in Dubai.
That would be insanely illegal to bring into the USA under normal conditions. It is possible to go through legal channels to get it here but it would probably be 10 years old before it was released and it would cost you at least an extra $10K from a bonded auto importer as demanded by the DOT.
I pity da fool who buy that.
Love,
Mr. T
I pity da fool who buy that.
Love,
Mr. T
Legal in Mexico.
You can legally import and register this in Mexico.....so buy it, register it there (slip the DMV guy $100) and drive it across, 12 million people know firsthand that it is not very difficult to get across our southern border......Then put a Fj45 or Fj55 body on it and register it as the old truck. Sure, It'll cost about 100k, but that is less than a TLC icon, and you can ditch the 200 Highlander body at the same time. I want.
You can legally import and register this in Mexico.....so buy it, register it there (slip the DMV guy $100) and drive it across, 12 million people know firsthand that it is not very difficult to get across our southern border......Then put a Fj45 or Fj55 body on it and register it as the old truck. Sure, It'll cost about 100k, but that is less than a TLC icon, and you can ditch the 200 Highlander body at the same time. I want.
hey guys its been awhile since ive been in. I drove a 200 diesel about 2 weeks ago the dealer said they only come out in a 6 speed auto over here nice to drive I dont think its as good as they claim though My troopy with the extra work and gas on pulls as hard. not quite the same in the comfort dept though and for that amount of coin Id prefer a dare i say it a F250.
Actually, his ad is incorrect, he cites the correct number later in the ad, which is 195 kW, or about 265 hp. That's decent, and more than my 100 Series has. But the real kicker is the 480 pound feet of torque, especially the way it's delivered (max torque at freaking 1600 rpm!!!)! And torque is where it's at with a truck. I'll take that over horsepower any day, I'm not interested in being able to maintain top speed on the autobahn (which is really all horsepower gets you).
Actually it is correct. The Middle East Spec for the manual 5 speed is 217HP ( and 232HP for the 6 sped Auto). Above is correct for Australia, and UK is 286HP. Toyota detune it for different markets depending on the diesel quality and amount of sulphur.
TOYOTA Middle East - LAND CRUISER - Specifications
You can get a chip from DP chip in Au to take it to 310HP and 577 pound feet of torque for $1100.
Ah, OK, that's interesting, but it makes sense. The specs he put later on in the ad must have been copied and pasted from another location, maybe from Toyota Australia, which are the only other specs I had seen for that truck. That's cool about the chip, quite a nice power boost!
can someone explain to me how a "chip" can dramatically increase the horsepower of a vehicle? and if it is as easy as a chip, why doesn't the manufacturer do it to increase the horsepower claims? what are the drawbacks that would stop them.
On a turbo diesel, simply more fuel and more boost. Hopefully modifying injection timing to suit.
The manufacturer doesn't do it because it greatly increases the stress on the engine and drivetrain, possibly leading to early failure but always shortening engine and drivetrain life. Emissions controls are probably violated too.
This *may* be true in some circumstances, however as can be seen buy the various specs out of the factory for Toyota the situation is usually that the manufacturer retards the output for one or more reasons.
these may include
a)a formula that meets all polution requirements in all marketed countries ( ie the lowest common denominator). Or simply to get lowest possible polution readings in a particular market. This is the most usual reason.
b)because of local fuel standards at the time of release or design.
c)To allow for a mid life kicker for the model in the way of "improved power and torque"
d)for the reason stated by dougal ( as evidenced by the Manual verses Auto in the ME).
The method Dougal states is the way mechanical pump diesels or early electronic ones did it and generaly uses more fuel.
With more sophisticated digital controlled fuel systems such as common rail diesels, the injector "mapping" is modified so as to be more applicable to power and torque than it is to polution. Boost is not modified at all.
Generally users will get a 0 to 5% IMPROVEMENT in economy as well as increased power.
"Mapping" is simply referring to how the fuelling varies with rpm and load. To get more power and torque out requires more fuel, it's that simple.
Do you have any BSFC measurements to backup the improvement in economy?
You sound a lot like a vendor, do you have a commercial interest to disclose?
The 2.2L diesel in the Avensis puts out 400Nm, since the V8 is similar to two of these combined the potential output could be 800Nm. Toyota will have very good reasons for detuning this engine, uprating it without understanding why could prove to be very expensive.
Nope, not a vendor, agent, relative or anyone who makes a profit from this stuff. I researched this considerably before getting one. Popular ones in Au are Dtronic, unichip, DP chip, Steinbauher ( or something). I have experienced about 15% extra power and ever so slight decrease in fuel consumption. Go to Australian 4WD Monthly Online Forums - Search Results which is the 4wd monthly forum search on th subject.
You will see hunderds of user opinions for yourself.
Not sure what BSFC is but here is the dyno results from one vendor.
Dyno Graphs - Results of Power and Torque Increases with the DPChip fitted to various vehicles
"The 2.2L diesel in the Avensis puts out 400Nm, since the V8 is similar to two of these combined the potential output could be 800Nm. Toyota will have very good reasons for detuning this engine, uprating it without understanding why could prove to be very expensive"
Maybe but if it really is 2 of these put together isn't 800nm which is more than enough?
It also isnt a simple matter of more fuel = more power, 3rd generation CRD's less LESS fuel to develop MORE HP by injecting several smaller amounts of fuel as it burns.
In the UK the 2.2l diesel in the Avensis is available as a 140hp (310nm) or 177hp version (400nm) with almost exactly the same economy. The only main difernece is that the 140hp version is marlketed as low emission( and therefore gets tax breaks). How does your explaination work there? I think this exactly proves the point.