1981 Toyota pickup purchase

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I came across a barn find. A completely stock 1981 toyota pickup shortbed w/5 speed. I haven't seen it in person yet but tomorrow night I am going to go check it out. It's only a couple hundred bucks. It runs and supposed to only have a little over 110k on the clock.

I am very familliar with Tacomas but not the older pickups.
Is there anything I should know to look at other than the obvious before buying it?
 
The truck is not much like a Tacoma at all. In fact, in an apples-to-apples kinda thing, it's really nothing like a Tacoma. The drive train is more like a FJ40 or other typical 4wd from the days of yore. If you have any experience with the second generation pickups or first generation 4Runners, you are in the right place. That truck is the baseline for the 1980's pickups. It seems to have taken a lot of cues from its Landcruiser cousins but it is really its own creation.

I'm biased, but I'm a huge fan of them. I can't think of any "hidden demons" to be especially aware of. The trucks are super basic, so if you have a working mechanical inclination and maybe an old fashioned knowledge of 4x4s from the old days, you are in the ballpark.

Compression, drivetrain wear, slop in the front end, gooey stuff leaking out, blah, blah blah. But you already know that I would guess.

For a couple hunnert bucks, if it runs, I'd say you are starting out well. IMO, the body is a big deal. If it's sound, I'd say buy her up even if you have to rebuild the engine. Rust is a drag. The beds were made (badly by comparison) in the states to deal with import restrictions. (the trucks came over as cab/chassis models w. beds added here) The US made beds don't tend to hold up as well as the cab / front clip.

What to you want to do with the truck?

I'm a stocker / driver myself though a lot of guys on here build the bejezus out of them. The short bed is favorable with those dudes. I work and camp with mine so i like the longbed, but take what you got. Both are cool.

The 5 speed will help on the highway some. I wish mine had one. '81 was the first year for that I think. I was looking for some advice on a swap and though I have yet to go through with it, I seem to recall some noise about the early 5 speeds as being problematic. I am out of my element on that. Maybe someone else has feedback.

Send photos and tell us your plans. Good luck and congrats on the find. I'd say unless its rotted all to hell, Buy her!
:cheers:
 
I think some 81's had a different axle gearing like 3.90's or something. My buddies did anyway.

All in all it's a steal for a couple hundred bucks. If it's all original you could double your money overnight selling just a couple of hard to find interior parts. Is it a 22R. Probably is if it has a 5speed. If I was you I'd buy it and build it. You could sink a couple grand in it and have a nice wheeler for the trails.
 
81 means it's an L50 5-speed.
My advice: buy it, and huck that POS L50 before it blows up on you. L52 will be a direct bolt-in, and will be far stronger than the L50, which was a modified version of the 2WD transmission, and not built for the higher diffs.
First-gen stock gearing 4.11, maybe the previously mentioned 3.9 is a dealer mod, or a PO mod, but that's a way obscure ratio, Most North-American Toyota 4X4's of that era (basically the Hiluxes, FJ40, FJ55, FJ60) had 4.11's and rarely had 3.73's.

These are not Tacos, but are better IMO, they're solid front axle, they're simpler, and lighter. The 22R doesn't have a Tacoma's power, but is pretty much the motor that gave Toyotas the bulletproof rep; and if you wanted to Tacomize it: a 3RZ-FE, or 5VZ-FE will make it fly because it weighs nothing.
Modding these rigs are cheap, far cheaper than a 40 (I have both a 40, and RN38). They're a killer DD, great mileage for an old 4X4, fit anywhere, and impossible to kill, you'd have to crumple it up into a bal, and toss the thing off a cliff to kill it. They're the best-handling truck I've ever driven, they steer true, respond well, and can turn on a dime. My buddies get a kick out of The Mule's turning radius (or lack thereof), I can put the cab where the tailgate was almost instantly. This thing was made for windy, hilly country roads.

The 22R can be a surprising motor, mine never ceases to amaze me, it was stiff and gutless when I first got it post-rebuild, broke it in over a couple months, and she loosened right up; then I blew a hole in the muffler, and now she'd just amazing they didn't market the first-gen as "the Sport-Car of the Pickup World" for no reason.
Visibility is surprisingly good. I first thought First-gens would be blind wth how "deep" the B-pillars are, but the driver's seat is set so you have a perfect viewing angle over the bed, and the mirror is positioned to nearly eliminate blind spots. This truck has, by far, the second-best visibility of all the vehicles I've driven, nearly as good as my 40, better than my old sedan, better than my sister's Matrix and mother's F150, lightyears better than my Dad's Mazda, and no comparison to my old C10.

Clearance: with smaller tires and dead springs, my first-gen had better clearance than nearly anything on the road that's stock. I've had people ask me what lift I'm running, and get surprised when I tell them it's just saggy, stock leaves.

My big complaints:
It drives like a truck. Modern trucks with coil-spings and IFS are really cushy, and comfortable, this isn't. It's comfortable for me, because I like trucks, and anything else feels wrong, but it will transfer the washboards into the cab. Mine is especially stiff because the rear spings have an add-a-leaf, and the anti-wrap leaf stiffening things, and the fronts are inverted so there's about an inche between the frame and bump-stops, but I'm not far from some OMES right now.
Cab space is tight. Again, far from a problem for me, I'm short, and it feels perfectly right, but it's similar in dimension to the front of a 40: shallow firewall, narrow cab. It still works, though, there's enough space behind the seats for speakers, a rifle, a pistol in a lockbox, and two bricks of ammo, it just requires some creativity to make it all fit.
Noisy: The cab is one of the tightest, most resistent to enternal sounds I've ever driven, the outside world is nonexstant to me audibly; however, all the engine and tranny noise goes straight into the cab. If you're in 4WD, it's like somebody's shaking a box of rocks under the passenger's seat. Soundproofing will solve this.

Transmissions are bothersome at times. Mine was pretty stiff post-rebuild, but after a couple hundred-thousand miles the bushings now have the perfect amount of wear to make it shift like buttah! They're noisier than a garage-band on a Saturday, however.

Suggestions: Get a Tach! I live my my tach, I'm not gonna lie. It's the most up-to-date means of knowing exactly what your engine is doing, and my speedo doesn't like the cold, and will not work in the mornings, however I know:
2500 - First gear - This isn't even classifiable as speed.
2500 - Seond - about 20MPH
2500 - third - 35-ish
2500 - fourth - 47-ish
2500 - fifth - 55.
The Mule can sit at 2500 Revs all day.

Good luck!
 
I got this from 4x4 wire.

1981 saw the first major changes in the Hilux model. A 2.4L 22R motor replaced the previous 20R and could be found connected to a L45 4-speed or a L50 5-speed. Both transmissions contained "top" shifters for the RF1A 21 spline gear driven transfer case. The standard gear ratio used in 1981 was 3.90 and the front end received a new grill and square headlights in place of the previous round lights. 1981 saw the introduction of Trekkers made by Winnebago and Trailblazers by Griffith. These were the predecessors to the 4Runner.

Some may have had 4.10's as well, but I know his had the 3.90's and they were stock.
 
..and we all know how sought after the geared transfer cases are. :hillbilly:

Post pics if ya get it. :D
 
I got this from 4x4 wire.

1981 saw the first major changes in the Hilux model. A 2.4L 22R motor replaced the previous 20R and could be found connected to a L45 4-speed or a L50 5-speed. Both transmissions contained "top" shifters for the RF1A 21 spline gear driven transfer case. The standard gear ratio used in 1981 was 3.90 and the front end received a new grill and square headlights in place of the previous round lights. 1981 saw the introduction of Trekkers made by Winnebago and Trailblazers by Griffith. These were the predecessors to the 4Runner.

Some may have had 4.10's as well, but I know his had the 3.90's and they were stock.

I stand corrected. That's a really weird ratio...
 
the strength of an l50 vs. an l52 transmission isn't exactly what i would call "far". i learned this when i mated a 2.8 litre turbo diesel to an l52, and about ~$5,000 miles later it blowed up, blowed up good, blowed up real good. before it died, you couldn't yell over the noise of 3rd and 5th gears. my best option without messing with crossmember/mounts or driveshaft length, or trying to find a diesel g,r, or w bellhousing was marlin's g54 gearset into l52 case. bigger bearings, lower first, taller fifth, and all-around stronger unit.

if a fella was going to take the time and money to rebuild an l52, it's absolutely worth the extra money to go for the g54 gearset.
 
You're right, there really aren't many good L series transmissions, but the L52 has a superior reliability reputation to the L50.
My L52 is very noisy, especially freshly rebuilt, it almost sounded like I was grinding gears.
I was not aware of the internal interchangeability; that's pretty cool!

Cheapest option is always to upgrade to the L52, as it's a direct fit. from there its guts can be changed out, or a G52, or W56 can be swapped in. I really like the W-series transmissions, personally.
 
About the only thing on these that could be tough to fix would be excessive rust. I love the 1st gen 4x4's and wish I had never sold mine back in 96. The one I had my father bought brand new in 1982. I was with him when he got it at the ripe age of nine. I need to get my hand on another one of these before they are all gone or cut up.
 
You're right, there really aren't many good L series transmissions, but the L52 has a superior reliability reputation to the L50.
My L52 is very noisy, especially freshly rebuilt, it almost sounded like I was grinding gears.
I was not aware of the internal interchangeability; that's pretty cool!

Cheapest option is always to upgrade to the L52, as it's a direct fit. from there its guts can be changed out, or a G52, or W56 can be swapped in. I really like the W-series transmissions, personally.

not quite so interchangeable, the case needs to be bored out for bigger bearings but everything else does fit. marlin crawler is the only outfit i know of that does this. the biggest problem (for me) was that the factory diesel has the clutch fork on the opposite side of the gas units, the diesel bellhousing is a rare and expensive find. if a fella can find a good used l52 to replace the l50, good option. but if you're looking at a rebuild, it's worth the extra $ for the g54. mine wasn't so much noisy, but i found that it took a fair while for the synchronizers to properly break in.
 
We Need Pics!!!
 
I love the early 80s hilux. It is my pipe dream to own a lightly modded mint truck. They are rugged yet awesome.
 
Thanks for all the information!! Helped a lot. So I drove up the other day to check out the truck. Turns out it's an 82 w/150k. But a couple of surprises like a factory sunroof, tach, full gauges and AC. Took me about 30 minutes getting fuel to the carb and adding some coolant, and it fired right up. I guess it had been sitting for about 5-6 years. Went back up today and checked all the fluid levels and drove it around. Everything seems okay..Here is a couple of pics....I need to replace the water pump gasket to get it home..not bad for 400 bucks!
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Beautiful!
That's a nice score!

FWIW I have a factory sunroof on The Mule, my '83, and the results are better than AC. Windows, bug-catchers blowing in, and the hot air escaping through the top hatch, the circulation is just unbeatable.
Weather permitting, you may want to open the dash up completely, and recombobble the heater ducting, mine's vibrated loose, and now the heater just blasts warm air from all the gaps and craters in the dash, it's amusing, but unfocused...

Great score man! Welcome to the First Gen club!
 
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not quite so interchangeable, the case needs to be bored out for bigger bearings but everything else does fit. marlin crawler is the only outfit i know of that does this. the biggest problem (for me) was that the factory diesel has the clutch fork on the opposite side of the gas units, the diesel bellhousing is a rare and expensive find. if a fella can find a good used l52 to replace the l50, good option. but if you're looking at a rebuild, it's worth the extra $ for the g54. mine wasn't so much noisy, but i found that it took a fair while for the synchronizers to properly break in.

Good to know. I was just talking in terms of a cheap, limited shop-time direct swap. Lately I find the crazy mods and extesnive swaps, conversions, and boring things out less appealing than running what will fit.
 
Amazing

That is truely a barn find,any interior pics?please post some.i would love to even find something close to that.cool rig.:D
 
DenCo, do you know what the greatest rule of owning a First Gen is?

Love.
you can know all the math in the 'verse, but you take a rig out you don't love, she'll shake you off shure as the turning of worlds. Love keeps her on the road when she aught to stall out, tells you she's hurting before she keens, makes her a home.

And, no, this is not an "official" rule, but it should be; and yes, it was stolen from the ending of "Serenity", but it's no less applicable.

:cheers:
 
DenCo, do you know what the greatest rule of owning a First Gen is?

Love.
you can know all the math in the 'verse, but you take a rig out you don't love, she'll shake you off shure as the turning of worlds. Love keeps her on the road when she aught to stall out, tells you she's hurting before she keens, makes her a home.

And, no, this is not an "official" rule, but it should be; and yes, it was stolen from the ending of "Serenity", but it's no less applicable.

:cheers:

Thanks, I know all about "love". I have spent a while giving my forty all the love it can handle along with all of my cash.

I'll work on some interior pics too. Looks like someone was monkeying around taking the radio out and missed a few screws because the dash has a weird rattle along with a harmonic balancer noise/vibration coming from the engine---Still quieter than my 40!
I'll be up there again next weekend to put on the new water pump and hopefully drive it home...
 
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