1" lift (beginner) (1 Viewer)

[LCStve]

Would it be ok to do a 1" lift (springs only) probably OME springs on the front on 2017 Lc200 with kdss. Without changing the stock toyota shocks?

Becuase the ride height on the front is quite low compared to the rear. So would like to level it out.

Would appreciate any help
Thanks

 

[kreiten]

just order the Toyota front coil spacers(43136-60020) for about 70 bucks and slap those in. Should take the rake outtta your rig!

 

[Willy beamin]

PM @beno he'll get you ordered up

 

[TeCKis300]

1" is not just for beginners. It's also for discerning owners who want a better balance of qualities and compromises.

In my years of modifying, often times, less is more. Retain all the goodness and balance of the stock package. With a tailoring of things to make it yours.

OEM springs with the stock shocks can work great. So would front coil spacers.

 

[linuxgod]

10mm Toyota spacers run about $75 for the pair. They add 3/4" of lift. I ran them for a bit - no issues getting the alignment back into factory specs. Toyota book rate was 3 hours of labor but it took my local dealer quite a bit longer to do the install.

 

[LCStve]

Thanks for the replies but if i go with Old man emu 1" lift springs would be it ok for the stock toyota stocks? cause I've read that old man emu springs are a little stiffer compared to stock.



P.S. a friend of mine is offering me a good deal on the old man emu springs, thats why i'm kinda considering it aswell compared to coil spacers. and I think a slightly stiffer spring would be beneficial against brake dive

 

[Yossarian]

Thanks for the replies but if i go with Old man emu 1" lift springs would be it ok for the stock toyota stocks? cause I've read that old man emu springs are a little stiffer compared to stock.

P.S. a friend of mine is offering me a good deal on the old man emu springs, thats why i'm kinda considering it aswell compared to coil spacers. and I think a slightly stiffer spring would be beneficial against brake dive

Do you know how to do the install yourself? I ask because if you do then go ahead and try. @bjowett stated that the OEM shocks had the capability for extra travel (at least I think he did). Now will they have enough dampening for the OME spring?

Try and find out, if they don't then order the OME shocks later.

 

[Like2Detail]

I just did mine this week, makes a pretty big difference all things considered. I work at a dealership so I just ran it through the shop. One hour labor for each spacer, alignment, mount and balance 4 tires and the messy parts of a 30k service runs about $400 plus tires. Did the front spacers & a set of 285/65 KO2s. Looks so much better and retains a stock ride. Pictures don't do the change justice, looks better in person.

 

[alsation]

I just did mine this week, makes a pretty big difference all things considered. I work at a dealership so I just ran it through the shop. One hour labor for each spacer, alignment, mount and balance 4 tires and the messy parts of a 30k service runs about $400 plus tires. Did the front spacers & a set of 285/65 KO2s. Looks so much better and retains a stock ride. Pictures don't do the change justice, looks better in person.View attachment 1550416 View attachment 1550417

That looks great. did you just use the Toyota spacers up front?

 

[Like2Detail]

Yep, when you see the spacers at first it seems like a complete waste of effort since they are so thin. I still don't understand suspension geometry enough to comprehend how the lift is amplified further. The spacers plus the additional height of the tires plus the stiffer sidewall of the LT tire makes a pretty significant difference in my opinion. I've gotten a ton of compliments from people that saw it before. Still has the brake nose dive though obviously. Can feel the firmness in the tires but it's really nice and still quiet.

 

[LRSIIaCruiser]

Will be scoopin a pair until it’s time for a suspension change. Looks great!

 

[linuxgod]

I still don't understand suspension geometry enough to comprehend how the lift is amplified further.

Because the springs are inward from the tire, small changes in spring height are amplified at the wheel. It’s like a lever - a 1” rise at the end of the lever is smaller closer to the fulcrum. In the car of the LC the result is about 2:1 difference

 

[LCStve]

Before purchasing the Old man emu +1" springs, just would like to CONFIRM if they would "sit" and be able to be installed properly with the stock shocks?
Cause all of the shops that i've asked told me that they would work, except for 1 shop that clearly said SPRINGS alone wont work with STOCK shocks cause they dont fit properly and "Required" me to buy Old Man emu Shocks as well.

Don't know if this particular shop was just trying to sell me more items or is telling the truth. Cause I have minimal knowledge with lifts

Thanks

 

[RTaylor]

Stock front struts will not work (sit properly) with OME springs.

Stock rear shocks will work (sit properly) with OME springs.

Matching the valving and appropriate length is another part of the equatio. Most/all of the educated opinions would say to go ahead and replace the shocks for the best results.

 

[LCStve]

Thanks a lot for the reply

May I know the reason why it's not compatible with the stock front struts?
by the way the springs are OME #2700 ( 1 inch lift, no bull bar)

Stock front struts will not work (sit properly) with OME springs.

Stock rear shocks will work (sit properly) with OME springs.

Matching the valving and appropriate length is another part of the equatio. Most/all of the educated opinions would say to go ahead and replace the shocks for the best results.

 

[TexAZ]

@LCStve contact Brian jowett, @bjowett on here.

He has tried jist about every combination of shocks and springs. He can help with recommendations for fitting a good spring and shock pairing.

 

[LCStve]

Hi @bjowett , my car is 2017 LC200, am planning to do a 1" lift Old Man Emu #2700 spring to level out the front and rear, will they work on stock front struts/shocks?
Thanks

 

[bjowett]

As far as I am aware, the ARB springs won't work with stock front shocks. I believe there are other brands that will,
... I'll check.

 

[Dan Higgins]

I had 2700s put on the front but I went with 2721s on the back as I wanted a bit stronger spring for towing our trailer. As @Like2Detail did, I run KO2 285/65 R18 LT tires. I still have a rake due to the lift in the rear but I am OK with that. Now, as for other changes, I went to full route (at Slee’s strong recommendation) and replaced the shocks and UCAs. All to ensure good wheel alignment and proper wear to all the bits over time. Of course, also did a realignment.

 

[linuxgod]

I went to full route (at Slee’s strong recommendation) and replaced the shocks and UCAs. All to ensure good wheel alignment and proper wear to all the bits over time. Of course, also did a realignment.

I have to agree that if you do anything more than add 10mm strut spacers to the front, you need adjustable UCAs. Yes you may be able to get your vehicle to within factory specs technically, but in my experience even a mild 2" lift in the front will put you right on the edge of "within specs".