Sooke snow rescue mission - Jeep extraction

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A guy I know was stuck (badly) in the snow out Jordan River on one of the mains. It was bad... ~3 feet wet crusty snow. He had made 3 attempts with friends (lifted dodges, ford excursion etc) to get him out, but they couldn't even make it close to where he was. He wasn't in a ditch or anything, just off the side of the road and in a drift.

He was worried about it getting torched or vandalized etc... or it getting snowed in more. He wasn't up there far, but the snow conditions were terrible. Not your fluffy white stuff... really heavy, really solid and full of rain.

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Cam and I met at Sooke McDonalds at about 8:30. Then I got a call from my buddy Chris, he wanted to lend a hand. So we ate breakfast and waited for him to show.

About 9:30 we picked up Adam from his house in Sooke. He was the owner of the 97??? something Jeep. He was waiting on the side of the street in his hi-vis jacket and pants with 2 shovels in hand.

We made it out to JR and took the mainline up. About 5 or 10 minutes in, I asked Adam... "So how far up here are you?" He answered with "A few KMs... not far". To which my response was... "Where is the snow???" :confused:

Sure enough we climbed elevation suddenly and came across snow. Since he had said it was bad, the 4 of us in the 3 vehicles stopped, aired down and I chained up the Fat Lady.

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The snow got much worse as we got further up the road. After only a few hundred meters we came across Adams work buddies' empty truck, who were to meet us out there that morning. Lifted Ford Excursion: no luck. :rolleyes: About another KM later we came across their quad, abandoned. Foot prints left the scene, going further down the road.

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If we kept idle speed, and didn't look at the snow crust the wrong way, we could float along the top 6-8 inches without problem. But, look at it the wrong way and you'd sink the remainder of the way down and literally high center yourself on the belly of the vehicle. This happened a few times. Adam got used to his position as "winch wench" ;)

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After nearly 3 hours we came across Adam's Jeep and his work friends attempting to dig it out.

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We thought, no problem right? Nice light Grand Cherokee, 8,000lbs winch... some snow... ok let's do this. Well, no. The winch didn't move his truck. So we doubled it up using my snatch block. That only proceeded in dragging the chained 6,700lbs Cruiser forward with the brakes down.

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I tried putting it into reverse and using the Cruiser to pull backwards instead of the winch. All this did was sink the Cruiser into the snow onto the skid plates and cause us another 25 minutes delay in digging out the ice from underneath. So Chris hooked his Jeep up to the back of the Cruiser for extra weight, and we tried the snatch block + winch again. All that did was pull myself AND Chris towards the stuck Jeep! :hhmm:

Cam then hooked his massive 60 Series to the back of Chris's Jeep and we made a Jeep love sandwich - with Chris being The Creamy White Stuff in the Middle. :clap: :flipoff2: This finally worked, with 3 vehicles for weight we winched the Jeep out and up the small hill to where we were. Now for lunch break and the trip back... :cheers:

The day had gotten worse, it was now snowing lightly and the snow seemed like it was freezing up again, making it very slick. Adam wasn't able to get any traction at all in his Cherokee, and we had to pull him the whole way back with the Cruiser. That of course made the Cruiser much heavier on the back tires and it sunk in a lot. "Luckily" the snow was hardening as it got colder, so we didn't have any more major sink-ins... just a lot of chewing of the chained tires.

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Soon Chris also was having issues. Since the snow was hardening and icing up, the weight of his Jeep was making it difficult to get traction. We soon had to hook him up to Cam (who, since was in the back on the way there, was now in the lead)

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We eventually all made it out without incident. :clap: Busy day though! Then we're off to the pub for a nice meal and drinks on Adam :lol:

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Yeah that was a hell of a day. I'm soooooo F'in done with snow! (as I look out the window to see flakes falling!)

Good write up Andrew.

Come to think of it...... I'm glad we were the only ones on that trip because if there were more trucks that would mean more people stuck. If there were fewer trucks we wouldn't have gotten everyone out. So all in al a god day that could have been worse!
 
Funny thing..... Previous snow run in Chemanius, I learned a thing or two.

1. Seapotatoes freeze like a deer in the headlights when confronted by certain death.

2. Air pressure can make a huge difference in snow. 18psi and I was going nowhere. After Jay recomended dropping to 10psi I was able to crawl up the same slope that was impassable at 18psi.

Same thing on last outing. The snow was so wet that if you broke the crust you were f*cked. 10psi and my 2700kg 60 would float happily crawling at an idle. One blip of the throttle and I sunk.... game over.

Its all a ground pressure thing and the MTR's dont buldge as much as a lighter duty tire. I bet I could have run higher pressures with a load range C tire.
 
Funny thing..... Previous snow run in Chemanius, I learned a thing or two.

1. Seapotatoes freeze like a deer in the headlights when confronted by certain death.


You are correct. My toes were indeed cold. :lol:


Besides, my poor little stockish 42 was like the scrawny nerd at football practice between the 60 and Jay's 40...
 
as long as the roads are flat (no sidehills) you could go even lower and not risk a blown bead. In my old toyota (5500 lbs) I ran my 37's MTR's are 3-4 psi in the snow and it was almost unstoppable.
 
A guy I know was stuck (badly) in the snow out Jordan River on one of the mains. It was bad... ~3 feet wet crusty snow. He had made 3 attempts with friends (lifted dodges, ford excursion etc) to get him out, but they couldn't even make it close to where he was. He wasn't in a ditch or anything, just off the side of the road and in a drift.

He was worried about it getting torched or vandalized etc... or it getting snowed in more. He wasn't up there far, but the snow conditions were terrible. Not your fluffy white stuff... really heavy, really solid and full of rain.

09-03-2012%2010-16-09%20PM.jpg


Cam and I met at Sooke McDonalds at about 8:30. Then I got a call from my buddy Chris, he wanted to lend a hand. So we ate breakfast and waited for him to show.

About 9:30 we picked up Adam from his house in Sooke. He was the owner of the 97??? something Jeep. He was waiting on the side of the street in his hi-vis jacket and pants with 2 shovels in hand.

We made it out to JR and took the mainline up. About 5 or 10 minutes in, I asked Adam... "So how far up here are you?" He answered with "A few KMs... not far". To which my response was... "Where is the snow???" :confused:

Sure enough we climbed elevation suddenly and came across snow. Since he had said it was bad, the 4 of us in the 3 vehicles stopped, aired down and I chained up the Fat Lady.

IMG_9994.jpg


The snow got much worse as we got further up the road. After only a few hundred meters we came across Adams work buddies' empty truck, who were to meet us out there that morning. Lifted Ford Excursion: no luck. :rolleyes: About another KM later we came across their quad, abandoned. Foot prints left the scene, going further down the road.

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If we kept idle speed, and didn't look at the snow crust the wrong way, we could float along the top 6-8 inches without problem. But, look at it the wrong way and you'd sink the remainder of the way down and literally high center yourself on the belly of the vehicle. This happened a few times. Adam got used to his position as "winch wench" ;)

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After nearly 3 hours we came across Adam's Jeep and his work friends attempting to dig it out.

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We thought, no problem right? Nice light Grand Cherokee, 8,000lbs winch... some snow... ok let's do this. Well, no. The winch didn't move his truck. So we doubled it up using my snatch block. That only proceeded in dragging the chained 6,700lbs Cruiser forward with the brakes down.

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Thats what the tow hooks on your rear bumper are for, tie it to a tree or other truck for some balist....:p

Almost 25 years ago I was pulled out by a one ton truck with tidy tank, they had to hook the truck to a tree. We had left the two full size 1974 jimmys in the mud hole for almost three days. Lots of suction.....


Good recovery boys, just like a cruiser to rescue a jeep....
 
Glad it all turned out well in the end!
 
Thats what the tow hooks on your rear bumper are for, tie it to a tree or other truck for some balist....:p

Almost 25 years ago I was pulled out by a one ton truck with tidy tank, they had to hook the truck to a tree. We had left the two full size 1974 jimmys in the mud hole for almost three days. Lots of suction.....


Good recovery boys, just like a cruiser to rescue a jeep....

I heard somewhere that using the rear tow hook and latching to a tree to help with extractions can damage your frame. Anyone know if this is true or not?
 
I heard somewhere that using the rear tow hook and latching to a tree to help with extractions can damage your frame. Anyone know if this is true or not?

A Cruiser's frame is pretty stout. As long as you try to keep the pull pretty straight, and don't shock load it it shouldn't be a problem. But if you ever tweak yours you didn't get the idea from me. :p

I love that by the way down both Heeps were being pulled by Cruisers. Awesome!
 
I heard somewhere that using the rear tow hook and latching to a tree to help with extractions can damage your frame. Anyone know if this is true or not?

I would assume that it wouldn't be any worse for your frame then using it as a tow hook....

After all when you're towing often you shock load the tow strap more than you would with the slow steady pull of a winch (Of course you could possibly have a massive winch and put far more strain this way but most of us have <14K winches).
 
nice job guys .as far as the frame tweeking i would highly doubt that ,least hope not anyway cause i just did a test to see which winch was stronger warn 10k front or super winch 10k rear.with the warn winning.
 

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