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And I can't turn...
time for some hammer work tomorrow

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Look cool.
What's rubbing?
 
Look cool.
What's rubbing?

Its rubbing on the inside rear of the front wheel well when I turn. I think I can just hammer it back a little bit.

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I have to figure out how to get the rear up an inch or two - I think I am just going to go with a man-a-fre spacer but I may just throw my mr gaskets I took out of the front in there for now. They will fall out off road but should be fine for back and forth to work. I am also going to do an inch or inch in a half body lift in the next couple of weeks. I need the room for the transmission and it should help with the tires too.
 
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Threw the rear spacers in at lunch and hammered the front wheel well into submission - seems to be good for now. I have a large table saw in the back right now too so it may be sitting a little low still.

Now I need to figure out something for flares. Tires stick out a little too far for my taste.

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So how's 37's with the gearing?! Is it where it needs to be? How about the hiway? and how about a trip to map out Auburn! DANG!
 
So how's 37's with the gearing?! Is it where it needs to be? How about the hiway? and how about a trip to map out Auburn! DANG!

It's fine as long as I don't go over 35. I've got some serious balance issues to work out. I talked to Andy at trailworthy for a while today. He gave me some good suggestions but I have some work to do. I made the mistake of just throwing the airsoft beads in the tires and bolting them up. Apparently some of the tires have grease in them and it causes the beads to clump up and stick in place.

There is a little power loss, but I can't tell if it is the height or the fact that they are so much heavier.
 
if you get a chance could you measure the distance from the bottom of your doors to the ground? or bottom of the tailgate (when folded down) to the ground, I think I have those same springs undermine arnt those the OME 2.5" heavy fronts and med rears?

do they drive alright on the highway?

do you think they would rub stock flares?

i like the wheel color.
 
It's fine as long as I don't go over 35. I've got some serious balance issues to work out. I talked to Andy at trailworthy for a while today. He gave me some good suggestions but I have some work to do. I made the mistake of just throwing the airsoft beads in the tires and bolting them up. Apparently some of the tires have grease in them and it causes the beads to clump up and stick in place.

There is a little power loss, but I can't tell if it is the height or the fact that they are so much heavier.

I'm sure you've seen and heard my opinon of them. But not going to beat a dead sushi roll, what I'm most interested in is what the size does to your gearing. I hope they work out for you.
 
if you get a chance could you measure the distance from the bottom of your doors to the ground? or bottom of the tailgate (when folded down) to the ground, I think I have those same springs undermine arnt those the OME 2.5" heavy fronts and med rears?

do they drive alright on the highway?

do you think they would rub stock flares?

i like the wheel color.

no idea on the highway, I've gone to the gas station to air them up and back home.

My lift is ome heavy front and stock height rear + a spacer now. Not good for comparison because I gained a lot of rear height with the transmission swap.

I don't think they would rub stock flares, they should be inside them still.
 
I'm sure you've seen and heard my opinon of them. But not going to beat a dead sushi roll, what I'm most interested in is what the size does to your gearing. I hope they work out for you.

gearing should be right, it still seems to pull better than it did with the auto and 31's. They are surprisingly quiet on the road too, at least compared the the worn bighorns.

I feel pretty sure the balance issue will work out. The odds of just throwing them on the rims and having them all balanced seems pretty low to me. I'm going to start with the fronts, break them down, pull the beads out, clean them up, and get a bubble balancer to figure out how the tire needs to sit on the rim and how many beads they need.
 
They don't normally get balanced on the hmmwv and in the 37" military tire thread there have been several saying do nothing and they are good.

I know, I should have just run them without the beads first but I (mistakenly) thought they shouldn't hurt. I noticed that one of the pvc inserts had a lot of grease on it, I don't know why it didn't occur to me that the beads would just stick in the wrong spot instead of balancing. I also noticed, and wondered, why some of the tires didn't make a swooshing sound when I was rolling them around. Now I know.

I am going to start with the front two - split the tires, pull the beads out, and clean them up. Then I will get a bubble balancer, see if I can twist the tire on the rim and get the weight distributed as evenly possible, and then decide if I want to put some beads back in, stick some weights on, or just run them. Andy said that he puts them on the bubble balancer and adds beads to the high side until it is level, that way you know exactly how many you need.

I'll keep this updated as I go. I want the tires to work, but also don't want anyone else jumping in and buying them if it is too much work for them.
 
So Andy was right about the grease causing the beads to clump together.

I pulled the driver front first today because I suspected that was where most of the wobble was coming from. The first thing I noticed was that the wheel bearings were very loose, so I tightened those. The second thing I noticed was that there was zero noise from the beads while rolling the tire through the garage. I broke it down, pushed the pvc insert to the side and this is what I found:

one vertical side:

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other vertical side:

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top of the tire(camera facing up):

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then I reached in and scraped about two inches just to see how thick the grease is:

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There is a thick layer of grease around the center of the tire, probably 1/8 - 1/4 inch thick. I would guess a pound or so at least. My guess is that the grease is to keep the heat down if the tire went flat and had to run on the run flat. Cleaning it out is going to be a chore, but I don't see how it would ever balance with that much grease in it unless the grease acts like a balancing media.
 

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