Brake booster, etc. 1998 LC $2,300 part, tax, labor????

[nov74fj40]

Had a prior post about no brakes, light, ABS light, annoying alarm...guess what...$2,300 strombolies to fix this beast....anyone want to comment...
Not sure exactly what the dealer was saying, but he said the entire unit needed replacing, i.e., booster, etc...said the codes lit up like a christmas tree.....

 

[jp213a]

Had a prior post about no brakes, light, ABS light, annoying alarm...guess what...$2,300 strombolies to fix this beast....anyone want to comment...
Not sure exactly what the dealer was saying, but he said the entire unit needed replacing, i.e., booster, etc...said the codes lit up like a christmas tree.....

The Toyota brake booster with accumulator and pump assembly retails for $1,321.

http://www.trademotion.com/partloca...e=34&model=Land cruiser&year=1998&catalogid=1

C-Dan can probably save you 25% if your local shop will let you provide the part.

That have been a few reports of brake pump failures on this web site.

 

[100 TD]

MAybe a bit more expensive at $1541 complete
http://www.trademotion.com/partloca...e=34&model=Land cruiser&year=1998&catalogid=1

 

[jp213a]

dealer said the entire unit needed replacing, i.e., booster, etc...said the codes lit up like a christmas tree.....

The question is "does the dealer know exactly what needs to be replaced or is everything being replaced at your expense just to be sure the problem is corrected the first time". As you can see on the Toyota parts web site, individual modules for the braking system are available for less money if the dealer can diagnose it that close.

 

[Travis351]

I would go with the complete system. It should come with a Lifetime Replacement Guarantee just like mine did so you will never have to buy another one.

Mine went out last year around 126K, no buzzers or lack of brakes. The only symptom was the brake light on the dash lit up. It took the first dealer 17 days to get the failing part and install the old system around it. 200 miles down the road...brake fluid leaking and E-braking to the nearest dealer. Different dealer installed the total system in 3 days at no extra cost. Works fine ever since.

Lay out the plastic and get it fixed right the first time. They are not easy to stop with the E-Brake and brake fluid is pretty messy. Good luck.

 

[firetruck41]

I would go with the complete system. It should come with a Lifetime Replacement Guarantee just like mine did so you will never have to buy another one.

Mine went out last year around 126K, no buzzers or lack of brakes. The only symptom was the brake light on the dash lit up. It took the first dealer 17 days to get the failing part and install the old system around it. 200 miles down the road...brake fluid leaking and E-braking to the nearest dealer. Different dealer installed the total system in 3 days at no extra cost. Works fine ever since.

Lay out the plastic and get it fixed right the first time. They are not easy to stop with the E-Brake and brake fluid is pretty messy. Good luck.

That sounds a little suspect, no symptoms, but the entire system needed replacing?
I've never heard of a Lifetime Replacement Gaurantee for OEM Toyota Parts before.

 

[Travis351]

Firetruck, et al,

You could be right, I am defintly no expert. I had really just gotten the truck at that point and trusted the dealer with everything. I wasn't even on this forum yet, so I went it alone. The brake light was on, they told me it signaled that the booster pump was the failure and I believed that to be the truth. As I remember, I had 2 options a cheap one and an expensive one. I chose the cheap one. Here are the details of the event...you be the judge.

The invoice for the first replacement booster has me down for part number 47070-60010 for $1162.49 and the invoice stamped with "These Parts are on the Parts for Life Program" The next day at a different dealer with the leakage problem, but no brake warning light this time. There are the same part numbers on invoice for the 2nd "Parts for Life" free repair without prices "Warranty" Fills the price field, but things looked a lot newer under the hood than after the first repair. More specifically, the reservoir was new, the silver thing that distributes the fluid looked new, etc (Everything but the brake lines.) The pump also looked more like the original OEM part than my first replacement. I remember the 2nd service adviser mentioning something about the new pump could have blown the seals out on an old system.

I don't go to the first dealer anymore due to other reasons...maybe they did unnecisarily replace the booster pump in the first place. I guess I'll never know. In hindsite, maybe it is better to go the cheap route as I did, hope for a failure shortly thereafter and get the expensive fix for nothing, along with a big appology from Toyota for not fixing the brakes right the first time. I would have been happier if I just got it fixed right the first time...you can't tow a Ski Boat with a loner Corolla, so my weekend was shot because of this madness.

 

[Jim_Chow]

The question is "does the dealer know exactly what needs to be replaced or is everything being replaced at your expense just to be sure the problem is corrected the first time". As you can see on the Toyota parts web site, individual modules for the braking system are available for less money if the dealer can diagnose it that close.

From my experiences, the dealer won't try to determine exactly which part in the master/booster assembly has failed. Replacing the entire part is the "safe" thing for them to do, as it'll likely fix it, albeit this is the shotgun method. After all, the booster/master assembly is $1500 vs $1300 for the booster alone, so it's really not worth any guessing on the dealer's part that it's the booster alone that's the culprit. I had to replace the original alternator on my '86 earlier this year. I suspected the culprit was worth brushes, but I wasn't willing to undergo the down-time by having to order an entire alternator if I was wrong. CDan also recommended replacing the entire unit given its age.