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I have an ez-wire harness I am going to install and was thinking about using waytec wiring weather pack connectors for most of the connections. are these easy to work with? i don't no anything about wiring yet but looking forward to learning. I have my old harness and I got a 2nd from same year and model, I figured I would use the stock connectors for hooking up the switches on the dash. Also have any of you ever used man-a-fre's painless harness for custom gauges. I have a billet gauge panel with auto meter gauges in it and the back of it looks like and octopuss from all the wires coming off of it.

Thanks for any input
 
Joe,

I bought a bunch of weatherpack connectors and a tool to crimp them. Let me know if you want to borrow the tool. I haven't actually done any crimping with it yet, but it should be easy.
 
You all need to get together......you have a looooooooooooooong winter to look forward to, should have plenty of time to do a great job.
I miss having all that time with no distractions......naaaa!!!
 
I glad to hear someone local to me is also going to do a re-wire soon. Would like to share ideas when you get it underway ( ok steal your ideas ). I won't be starting until fall myself. need to get the suspension done and body put back on the frame first. I might do the rear part of the wiring before the body gets put back on, I think if would be easier to run the wires.
Steve what do you think of the connectors? do they look easy to work with?

Thanks
Joe
 
The Weather-pak connectors are really easy to work with.
Make sure to select the proper size terminal and seal size for the wire size you have. Measure twice and cut once.
As long as you have the proper crimping tool, it's just a matter of remembering to slide the seal onto the wire before you crimp on the terminal and putting the terminal into the proper hole in the housing.
 
Thanks Coolerman. I have read some of your stuff and would have been one customer of yours for a plug and play type harness, but this will force me to learn how wiring works. just glad I am not in a hurry.
 
Joe,

To tell you the truth I bought a bunch of connectors and threw them in a box for later. I looked them over when I got them and thought they would be easy to crimp. Haven't done any yet, though. I am a bit behind you since I have not taken my body off yet. That happens this weekend. Then I get the fix all the rust... Oh joy.
 
Steve,
You won't be behind me for long if the body mounts I ordered a month ago today don't show up and proffitt's stays closed for much longer. I want there SOA kit, so my suspension can get done before I put the motor in and drop the body back in place. I think I want to get the rear harness done before the body gets put back on. What do you guys think of doing it that way? plenty more questions to come.

Thanks
 
I agee with your plan. All that work is easier with the body off. Don't rush putting it back on. Let me know if you want some help wiring.
 
What are the most common size connections I will need 4pin, 6 pin, ect. I would like to order the connectors and crimping tool but don't want a bunch of crap I wont use. Coolerman talked about proper sized terminal ( That is what gets crimped to the wire and inserted into the plug right? ) and a seal. Is the seal like shrink fit for the wire or something else? sorry for the dumb questions but I am a total newb.
 
For my re-wire plan i decided to run the wires myself. I want my power panel inside the glove box and the painless kits are designed to have the panel in the left side (what I have read). I also just hate to chase ground faults as well as sand off beautiful paint and introduce rust in order to establish good body grounds. So for me I decided to run a ground wire to each light, etc. This adds one more hole for each plug. So what was a single wire connector is now a two wire, what was a three wire connector is now a four, etc. Handling the wire gages is a different matter. Rather than have three different gages to the rear and so on I will use the largest gage and make all wires that gage. Lots of extra cost I know, but must less different things to buy.

In your case Joe, you already have a harness so you need to look at each wire end and figure out the gage and number of wires. Write down how many of each number/size combination the make the order. Another option would be to buy a bunch of single wire connectors of different gages and just do singles. Kind of like the stock configuration. I wish we had a local supplier so you could get everything you need in one retail location, but...

So, terminal size refers to the wire gage supported by the terminal. Like 14 gage or 18 gage. The seal is a rubber piece that goes over the wire before you crimp on the terminal. It gets pushed into the back end of the plug after you insert the terminal in the plug (there is one that goes between the plug halves too). This makes the water resistant connection. A plug assy will accept different gages of wire. You need the proper terminals and seals for the gage. You can't use 10 gage wire with an 18 gage terminal and if you used a 12 gage seal on an 18 gage wire you would not have a sealed connection as there would be a gap between the wire and seal, etc.

Does this all make sense? Another thing I have read, and will take the word of others on it, is that once you insert a terminal in the plug shell you can't remove it. They do make removal tools, but I don't know how well they work. So, do it right the first time :)

Some online retailers only sell the weatherpak connectors in bulk and some in sets. I bought from a place that sold them in sets. So one set included both halves of the plug, all the seals and terminals. I had to select the number of wires (2, 4, 6, etc) plus the gage. I can look up who I ordered it through after I get home if you want.

Let's talk offline if you want more info.

Steve
 
For my re-wire plan i decided to run the wires myself. I want my power panel inside the glove box and the painless kits are designed to have the panel in the left side (what I have read). I also just hate to chase ground faults as well as sand off beautiful paint and introduce rust in order to establish good body grounds. So for me I decided to run a ground wire to each light, etc. This adds one more hole for each plug. So what was a single wire connector is now a two wire, what was a three wire connector is now a four, etc. Handling the wire gages is a different matter. Rather than have three different gages to the rear and so on I will use the largest gage and make all wires that gage. Lots of extra cost I know, but must less different things to buy.

In your case Joe, you already have a harness so you need to look at each wire end and figure out the gage and number of wires. Write down how many of each number/size combination the make the order. Another option would be to buy a bunch of single wire connectors of different gages and just do singles. Kind of like the stock configuration. I wish we had a local supplier so you could get everything you need in one retail location, but...

So, terminal size refers to the wire gage supported by the terminal. Like 14 gage or 18 gage. The seal is a rubber piece that goes over the wire before you crimp on the terminal. It gets pushed into the back end of the plug after you insert the terminal in the plug (there is one that goes between the plug halves too). This makes the water resistant connection. A plug assy will accept different gages of wire. You need the proper terminals and seals for the gage. You can't use 10 gage wire with an 18 gage terminal and if you used a 12 gage seal on an 18 gage wire you would not have a sealed connection as there would be a gap between the wire and seal, etc.

Does this all make sense? Another thing I have read, and will take the word of others on it, is that once you insert a terminal in the plug shell you can't remove it. They do make removal tools, but I don't know how well they work. So, do it right the first time :)

Some online retailers only sell the weatherpak connectors in bulk and some in sets. I bought from a place that sold them in sets. So one set included both halves of the plug, all the seals and terminals. I had to select the number of wires (2, 4, 6, etc) plus the gage. I can look up who I ordered it through after I get home if you want.

Let's talk offline if you want more info.

Steve

All this is good info on weatherpack connectors. I plan to eventually re-wire my 40 and like the idea of water tight connectors. Please keep this discusion online if it contains more of this kind of tech.

Don
 

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