Wheel/Axle Assistance

[titanpat57]

Hi All,

Getting ready to start the new trailer build and I have a few questions for the resident "wheel experts".

A) The Toyota Trail Edition has 17x7.5 rims with a 6 on 5.5 bolt pattern with a 4.5 offset (I'm pretty sure this is a yes)

B) The axle I'm odering has 1/2" dia. studs, 10" electric brakes, and the outside of the electric hub face is approx. 10-1/4"...anyone see any hang ups here? (they did offer 5/8" dia studs which I thought would be too big. I odered special lugnuts the outside spins while the part against the rim torques down in place. I'm hoping I can take my stock rim and put it on the trailer axle with out any spacers or special stuff?

Thanks in advance for any and all comments

 

[gaberelli]

I forsee a problem here. For the life of me, I could not find lug nuts that fit Toyota wheels (I have FJ Cruiser wheels) for my new hubs on my M101CDN. Are your lug nuts on the 2010 4Runner like this:

If so, you will probably need to replace the studs on your hubs with M12x1.5 studs and buy OEM style lug nuts. The problem with using acorn style nuts like the ones that come with the axle is that they almost fit completely into the hole in the rim and thus the cone shape is useless and fitment nearly impossible.

I bought these for my hubs:

Dorman 610-376 - Wheel Stud | O'Reilly Auto Parts

and these:

http://www.amazon.com/Chrome-Style-..._1?ie=UTF8&s=automotive&qid=1270866845&sr=8-1

as they had the correct knurl diameter for my hubs (actually, they were a bit big but I sunk them in with some washers and a hardened M12x1.5 nut).

 

[titanpat57]

Thanks Gaberelli.......here's what I ordered.

I'm guessing there going to work...I think I may have to crank off a lug nut tomorrow and check!

http://dexteraxle.com/i/u/1080235/f/product_flyers/Torq-N-Go_3-10.pdf

 

[gaberelli]

Thanks Gaberelli.......here's what I ordered.

I'm guessing there going to work...I think I may have to crank off a lug nut tomorrow and check!

http://dexteraxle.com/i/u/1080235/f/product_flyers/Torq-N-Go_3-10.pdf

I hope that they work too, but I have my doubts. I assume that the 2010 uses the same lug nut as mine (I have a 2006 4Runner). You can see in the picture in my previous post that Toyota uses a "mag" style lug nut where instead of using a cone shape to center the wheel it has a larger hole (twice as big as the stud) and relies on the lug nut to fill the space. The acorn style lug nuts (same as the ones you bought) are just too small and most of the cone sinks into the hole in the wheel thus failing to center the wheel. I burned up a bearing immediately after replacing them on my M101. I THINK that the cause was a wobbly wheel from failing to center it properly with the nuts included with my axle. It could have been a bad bearing, but I dont think so. After this I decided to go with the setup I have now using OEM Toyota lug nuts. Let me know what happens!

 

[titanpat57]

This fellow 7Harper was a big help in explaining also over at the 4Runner forum.

Thanks Gman

Wheel Help - Toyota - 4Runner . org Forum

 

[gaberelli]

I thought I had my setup down pat but I am thinking that I could use hub rings as well. The lugs dont have much play within the wheel so the wheel is very close to being centered but I dont think that my hubs are hub centric at all. Are there rings made to go from lug centric to hub centric with the correct diameter or do they just help change the diameter of the hub centric portion on the hub? Make sense?

 

[titanpat57]

Gman..

Go back and check out the Spidetrax spacers Harper posted...

THAT is going to be the ticket!!