What winch for arb bull bar?

[Peluo]

I will second also Superwinch and also Ramsey good. I myself tried to save weight and went with a small body winch Warn 9.5XP fit was pain had to massage the winch motor cover/heatsink in order to fit. I used the ARB spacers for the bumper. But I am replacing those with aluminum square stock to save weight.
My dream winch is Husky 10K Bill Burke edition.

 

[Peluo]

Ramsey RE series are used by Tow trucks.

 

[LINUS]

Go delrin, more durable, have cut the urethane rollers like daystar into pieces.



This. You will never be a baller in the mud world till you have a M12K with the proper name accessories.

In the real world, some of the TRAL members work recovery. Observing their rigs, none of them have warn, most common is superwinch or bulldog.

Cute Kev, really

I guess what some call “baller status” is to other people a “no excuses solution”.
Perspective, I guess.
A Sig 226 is good, but a Kimber Eclipse Pro is “no excuses”.
A cheap AR-15 is fun, but a Spikes Tactical Compressor is awesome.
To each their own.

I could go into a longwinded thing about my M12K use & build quality/serviceability, but I don’t feel like it. Plus, it’s nothing new. Warn is Warn.
OP already has a Warn he’s installing so the “best brand winch” -ship has sailed anyhow.

Since none of us are doing timed events, it probably is far more important to just run a single compound & get off the 1st wrap with any winch rather than say anything about brand of gear. An extra shackle & a pulley, done deal.

That’s far more important info than brand loyalty IMO.

All I know is I never had a hiccup out of my junk, and I don’t have winch envy.

 

[imnrut]

Is there a reason you aren’t into just buying/running a offset Hawse?
That ARB upper wing is held on by ~3) 3” weld beads, you break those & witha hawse you would be flush up front.
By the time you run down some delrin rollers I bet that route will be more $$ than a hawse. Just my op.
I have the exact same Slee hawse that was linked above: Slee - Winches

Just thought I'd use the upper wing as designed. Mainly though, I wasn't really wanting to re-paint/hide the grind job after wing removal. Also, I recall folks mentioning that by using that feature, it distributes applied forces on the bumper more so than just a hawse with wing removed. I doubt I will be getting that extreme (is that baller status?) for it to matter, but who knows.

 

[Tools R Us]

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I guess what some call “baller status” is to other people a “no excuses solution”.
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Not sure what guns have to do with it? You issued the challenge, I answered with an example, don't care there is no winch mounted on my rig. So, you're saying that the pros make their winch choices based on price, ignorance, not sophisticated enough to own a Spikes Tactical Compressor?

 

[LINUS]

@Tools R Us

Kevin - generally I agree with you on parts & fix it methods, but sometimes you do the whole “legend in your own mind/never wrong” -thing.

You have your “pros” & up here we have ours. Up here Warn is the standard in many EMS/SAR/-heck, even the PUD utility/boom trucks.
Nobody buys a used vehicle with a Warn in the bumper & thinks “great rig, but that winch will get pitched for a ______”.
If you say otherwise, I will just smile & nod - everyone has their opinion.

I’ve got zero desire to do a “brand wars” with you, if you don’t appreciate a M12K then that’s on you. I see a Warn in a bumper & I’ve no desire to change that.

The gun thing is an example - all will go bang, but some bring more to the table.
It’s nothing to do with ‘sophistication’ but is all about $$ priorities/experience.

To me, my M12K & more importantly - running a compound setup - is absolutely the only answer I need.
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Edit: I see where you say I issued a “challenge” - so here’s why I stand by my junk.

I have zero experience with any Warn where someone burned up windings or had any issue over the thermal reset hitting. I don’t even know of an anecdotal story of the right size Warn with a proper rigging burnt.

-I have a specific friend on his 3rd winch (if it doesn’ have a red W, IDK what they are) - he’s a bobbed Chev with D__ axles/prob an easy ~5K of rig. I believe his were various brands.
He always does a simple pull, and we live here in mud where we need a winch, you can bury your 80 to the axles w/o thinking 9mo/yr. You need a winch for trails in WA.

-I bought this M12K used in ~’98 on the front of my Cheb logging/work truck. I’ve regreased/pulled endcaps 2x, and it got a new wire rope in ‘99, was swapped to the 80 in ‘00.
-I rebuilt/seals in ‘04/‘05, again ~2011/12.
-I wore the wire out & replaced it, in ‘14 w/ Masterpull - I had enough pulls & wear on the wire it ‘sang’ twards the last few pulls (thats wire’s way of letting you know it’s worn out). So it took 15yrs with proper cleaning to wear out my fresh Warn PN# wire.
-I’ve become lazy/fish more so now my Masterpull is 4yrs old & has very little hair/fuzz/wear.
-I’m a bit of a ‘rope geek’ in that I was S&R, also on the refinery rope rescue/EMT team, so we do all sorts of rigging, and my M12K always gets a single compound setup (term getting familiar?).

So now, with 2 regreases (due for a 3rd) - always getting out of the 1st wrap with a simple compound, it’s been through 2 wire ropes (was pretty clapped when I bought it), and it’s NEVER even hit a thermal S/D.
-I’ve only ever ran a single battery & a hand throttle as well.
-Also had the LX450 for ~4yrs w/ a M8K, same situation - bought it w/ a decent used Masterpull line, it needed replace by time I sold.

No hiccups in alot of use. 4 total Warns owned/used not including the Zeon10K new/waiting to get my Demello bumper for the Tundra.

If you can find someone willing to give 1st-hand experience/history like mine with about same track record, then I’m open to hearing how loyal they are to their brand of winch.

I think a used M12K of a local CL & a rebuild prior to install (or new if you have $$) - is as true of a value as any.

 

[imnrut]

Now that we got that out of the way... Does anyone see why I can't use this Superwinch Roller Fairlead or superwinch heavy-duty roller fairlead-lp8500, 2302293 for a housing and swap with delrin rollers?

 

[LINUS]

^^^Should be fine, if you really don’t want a hawse.
As long as Tigershark are a old enough series the bolt pattern is same as whatever Warn is.

Only reason I say that is the Zeon is kinda a new/oddball winch - I’m glad I have abilty to mod whatever Demello sends me as the Zeon will need a solenoid relocation off the jump in my app, and if yours is the Platinum I’m just noticing it looks like the clutch is a remote function. Mine’s the std Zeon.

I'd compare bolt patterns between your winch & the Tigershark site, just to 2x it.

 

[Tools R Us]

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You have your “pros” & up here we have ours. Up here Warn is the standard in many EMS/SAR/-heck, even the PUD utility/boom trucks.
Nobody buys a used vehicle with a Warn in the bumper & thinks “great rig, but that winch will get pitched for a ______”.
If you say otherwise, I will just smile & nod - everyone has their opinion.
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I never claimed that they were junk, and no doubt popular. I do disagree with your assertion that choosing anything else is lessor. There are lots of winch choices, depending on use, some as good or better that a warn.

The patriarch of local recovery companies, Joe started in the seventies, knows which end of a cable to grab. Was behind him recently on the trail, noted 2 big superwinches (18K) on the rear of his main recovery rig, didn't check the front. He is one who would swap out a warn if it were on a rig he bought, don't take the abuse their use dishes out.

Personally, don't care, brand neutral, have worked on a bunch of them, most have their good and weakness. My use would be mostly casual, hobbyist, so pretty much whatever. Bob the owner of bulldog is a TRAL supporter, and wheeling buddy, if I decided to put one on, would likely be one of his. For my use, discounted is good and solid, local support is even better.

 

[Douglas S]

By now I think any 80-series regulars should know that basically everything is different in AZ, apparently.