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Thought it might be worth opening a thread about this oil. My Tundra is now at about 115k miles and there's a lot of pretty good looking data coming out regarding this oil and it's ability to help break down some of the oil deposits in older engines. I have noticed over the winter that I can occasionally hear some timing chain noise for a few seconds on cold starts. I think we all know where that's coming from and I've read some reports of this oil helping. So - my last oil change I bought some and used it.

After maybe 500 miles or so, I do not hear any chain noise on start up. BUT - and it's a bit "but" - it's also warmer. It's been a cold winter and I park in a garage so I'd normally only hear the chain on starts when leaving work at anywhere from 0 to -30*F. Now that it's more like 20*F when I'm leaving work - it may just be due to warmer temps. Hard to know. I'll keep an eye on it and update after my next oil change.

What prompted me to start a thread on it is this: A few days ago when I started my truck to pull out of the garage i got a decent puff of smoke out the exhaust. And it smelled like burning oil. I've never had that before with this truck. And the timing may just be luck with the change in oil. However - it did concern me because it's never done that. It went away immediately as you'd expect if a small amount of oil had found its way into a cylinder while it was parked. But it was unmistakable in how it smelled as I backed out of the garage. I tow with it a lot. And I towed my snowmobiles yesterday for about 100 miles out and back. I've seen no additional oil burning either during towing or in the dozen or so starts after that. Including a few overnight cold starts. But I'm watching closely now.

Has anyone else used it and had good or bad experiences. It may be snake oil. I'm generally very skeptical of magic oil additives or special oils. There's pretty good large fleet data sets that suggest oil brand makes no difference in engine life so long as it meets the class standard. I usually use Mobil 1 synthetic 0w20. But I have no heartburn about using any other brand of similar oil. I've never had a toyota engine fail from a lubrication related issue regardless of what brand is used. But it does initially seem like it may have actually helped free up the timing chain tensioner. I'm worried it might have also resulted in a piston ring getting loose that was sealing better before or released a deposit on a valve guide seal or something like that that was actually keeping it from leaking down.

Or I might be fooled by randomness. Probably randomness. But - anyone else use it and have any immediate or long term benefits or harm?
 
Thought it might be worth opening a thread about this oil. My Tundra is now at about 115k miles and there's a lot of pretty good looking data coming out regarding this oil and it's ability to help break down some of the oil deposits in older engines. I have noticed over the winter that I can occasionally hear some timing chain noise for a few seconds on cold starts. I think we all know where that's coming from and I've read some reports of this oil helping. So - my last oil change I bought some and used it.

After maybe 500 miles or so, I do not hear any chain noise on start up. BUT - and it's a bit "but" - it's also warmer. It's been a cold winter and I park in a garage so I'd normally only hear the chain on starts when leaving work at anywhere from 0 to -30*F. Now that it's more like 20*F when I'm leaving work - it may just be due to warmer temps. Hard to know. I'll keep an eye on it and update after my next oil change.

What prompted me to start a thread on it is this: A few days ago when I started my truck to pull out of the garage i got a decent puff of smoke out the exhaust. And it smelled like burning oil. I've never had that before with this truck. And the timing may just be luck with the change in oil. However - it did concern me because it's never done that. It went away immediately as you'd expect if a small amount of oil had found its way into a cylinder while it was parked. But it was unmistakable in how it smelled as I backed out of the garage. I tow with it a lot. And I towed my snowmobiles yesterday for about 100 miles out and back. I've seen no additional oil burning either during towing or in the dozen or so starts after that. Including a few overnight cold starts. But I'm watching closely now.

Has anyone else used it and had good or bad experiences. It may be snake oil. I'm generally very skeptical of magic oil additives or special oils. There's pretty good large fleet data sets that suggest oil brand makes no difference in engine life so long as it meets the class standard. I usually use Mobil 1 synthetic 0w20. But I have no heartburn about using any other brand of similar oil. I've never had a toyota engine fail from a lubrication related issue regardless of what brand is used. But it does initially seem like it may have actually helped free up the timing chain tensioner. I'm worried it might have also resulted in a piston ring getting loose that was sealing better before or released a deposit on a valve guide seal or something like that that was actually keeping it from leaking down.

Or I might be fooled by randomness. Probably randomness. But - anyone else use it and have any immediate or long term benefits or harm?
I started using it about 1k miles ago in my 4.7L. Similar situation where I read all the glowing reviews and positive remarks so I decided to give it a try. No price difference from my standard Mobil 1 (synthetic). Nothing to report yet but after a few oil changes I’m hopeful it’ll have helped clean the internals a bit after nearly 250k miles. Granted, I’m not expecting miracles.
 
I'll pull apart the filter on my next change and put some pics on here. The 5.7 cartridge style filter is really easy to just break the ends off of the pleats and pull open to see what's in them. I didn't keep my last one, but there's usually just a small amount of visible darkenign around the creases in the middle. I've never seen a metalic flake in the filter media.

I'm becoming more convinced over time that it really did fix the timing chain tensioner though. I did a start yesterday at 20*F and it was completely gone. If that's the only outcome - easy win IMO. Agree that the price being the same as normal oil makes it easy to try.
 
This Valvoline has NOACK (volatility loss) about twice higher than already high Mobil 1. More oil vaporizes, more of it gets into cylinders via crankcase ventilation. Though initial puff is most likely oil sipping past valve stem seals. Kinematic viscosity of these two is identical, it may be Valvoline does not swell seals as much as Mobil 1 does. Looking at datasheets, Mobil 1 looks better in numbers.

I had occasional burning oil smell on startup on both my 3URs, even when they were new. Cold weather, give it a few days of sitting in driveway - it will burn.

Also 5w30 for the win :)

Have you ever replaced PCV valve? Part number 12204-38030. Very cheap and easy to replace. It is spring-loaded, soaked in oil and I can imagine it can freeze or gummed up in cold weather.
 
Juste an update - it only happened once. Hasn't happened again. I've been starting it every day with the remote as I walk up after work to see if I get any smoke or smell and also listen for timing chain rattle. The news so far is all good. Have not had another instance of smoke. And the timing chain rattle has been completely gone. I've probably put around 800 miles on it with the new oil so far. My timing chain rattle was less than 5 seconds - probalby closer to 2 seconds - but definitely there on cold starts and has been completely gone. However - it's warmer. So, it's hard to separate any oil results from warmer weather.

I am glad that I haven't had any additional oil burning.
 
This Valvoline has NOACK (volatility loss) about twice higher than already high Mobil 1. More oil vaporizes, more of it gets into cylinders via crankcase ventilation. Though initial puff is most likely oil sipping past valve stem seals. Kinematic viscosity of these two is identical, it may be Valvoline does not swell seals as much as Mobil 1 does. Looking at datasheets, Mobil 1 looks better in numbers.

I had occasional burning oil smell on startup on both my 3URs, even when they were new. Cold weather, give it a few days of sitting in driveway - it will burn.

Also 5w30 for the win :)

Have you ever replaced PCV valve? Part number 12204-38030. Very cheap and easy to replace. It is spring-loaded, soaked in oil and I can imagine it can freeze or gummed up in cold weather.
I'm sticking with 0W20 for my climate (south central Alaska). I have a lot more -20F days than 100*F days. Actually zero 100*F days. The hotest temperature it has reached since I moved here is about 73 degrees. So, I think I'm probalby better with the 0w20. But I might go to a higher viscosity if I move back south.

So far so good on the oil puff being a one-time thing. I am curious to see if there's much difference in the oil filter next time. I probably could have boroscoped inside the valve cover or something like that as a before and after, but I'm not sure at my mileage it would make any difference anyway. I was mostly hoping it might help with the timing chain rattle that had started periodically over the winter. Seems to be gone already, but hard to know. That alone was worth the small effort to use it for an oil change or two if it does really fix it.

Never changed the PCV. Probably does get sticky in cold temps.

My snowmobiles both use 0W40 oil. That's a bit of an oddball oil weight I've never seen before. But it might actually be an okay choice to swap out for the 0w20 if I wanted good cold weather flow and also thicker oil once its warmed up.
 
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