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Copy from NC 4x4 but I thought it was important, see below:

Forest Service Stance On Uwharrie OHV Trails

I had the privilege of meeting with District Ranger Deborah Walker and Recreation Supervisor Theresa Savery November 16, 2009 regarding the OHV trial system at Uwharrie National Forest. I have spent more time on the trails there this year compared to years past and the overall condition of the trails was of concern to me so I scheduled a meeting with them to discuss trail conditions and what the 4wd community could do to help.

First of all, Ranger Walker assured me of her commitment to keeping the Uwharrie OHV trails open for 4wd enthusiasts to enjoy. She was very specific in mentioning that NC Forest Supervisor Marisue Hilliard is very aware of the animosity toward the Forest Service by the 4wd community and that both of them were desirous of continuing to provide a quality OHV experience on the OHV trails at Uwharrie National Forest.
One of my main concerns in meeting with Ranger Walker was the proliferation of bypass and spider trails in the forest. Just over the course of this year, major bypasses have appeared on the Daniel and Rocky Mount trials. Spider trails have sprung up, as usual, in many areas, especially in the high spectator areas.
Ranger Walker’s stance is that bypasses are a necessary part of the trail system. In order to provide access in the forest to all levels of motorized vehicles, bypasses around some of the more difficult sections are required. However, it is not up to the individual trail users to determine where bypasses are necessary and to create them. The Forest Service uses the winter closure period to survey the trail system and determine where bypasses are most needed and to perform the trail and signage work necessary to implement them into the OHV system. During the open season it is necessary that trail users to remain on signed trails and bypasses! One of the things the 4wd community could help with is to come up with ideas to improve awareness of all OHV trail users of the necessity of staying on marked trails.

Another area of concern we discussed was Forest Service Work Days. The number participants in these work days has decreased over the last couple of years to the point the work days have become ineffective. It is necessary that we, the 4wd community, give back to the effort to keep the trails open and clean. Just this weekend I witnessed members of the CNC club dumping several bags of trash collected on the trails at the double parking lot trash receptacles. This wasn’t a club trail cleanup project, just some good citizens doing their job. When was the last time you stopped on the trail, during one of your regular rides, and made the trails better for those coming behind you?

The Forest Service has several projects scheduled for the winter closure period including installation of culverts, erection of bypass barriers and a survey of the trail system to look at improvements and additions that could be made. If you are a member of a club that participates in keeping the trails maintained at Uwharrie, please be sure to attend your club work days in 2010. If you are not a club member, try to attend at least one Forest Service Work Day in 2010. At the very least, next time you are there; pick up one trash bag full of cans and bottles. Trust me, it won’t be hard or take very long to find an area to accomplish this small task which will help make the trails better for all of us to enjoy!
 
Needs to go out to the 4wheeler crowds as well. Find one of those spider trails that you can fit an 80 down. I wouldn't say it is easy to pick up a full bag of trash but you would be very hard pressed not to find enough to fill up a plastic shopping back on just a couple quick trails. Which is entirely to much to begin with. Glad that this local NFS station is sticking up. The fall of URE is the fall of the entire off-roading experience in NC.

I remember while we were out there that they mentioned we could do some winter cleanups with them. I would be interested in heading out there one weekend to lend a hand. Truthfully the BS work they had us doing didn't really seem to make a difference. I'm not an erriosion control specialiast but maybe we helped a little bit. It was the face time, posting of markers, and the trash control that made more of a difference than anything. I think the Winter maintenance with the big machines is the money maker when it comes to errision control. I guess as does everything it does need maintenance thruout the summer though. I'm all for it.
 
Do we have dates for our work days during the closure? There was a lot of talk during the September work day about going out t do more work.
 
Uwharrie is one of our favorite areas from the Lowcountry...if we can help let us know.
 
Yes, I am working with Terry on creating a winter cleanup schedule, as soon as the dates are firmed up I will post the details.
 
I really think some slick version of "OHV does not mean off TRAIL vehicle!!" would be a good bumper sticker / slogan and part of an education process.

Of course the issue with spider trails is once they have been used a couple times, it is pretty hard to distinguish them from the regular trail. If we could use more of the trail markers in those areas it might help ("Stay in between the Markers...sorta like the boaters to stay in between the buoys?")
 
on my trips up there the worse offenders appear to be the locals on ATVs....not waiting and going pretty much wherever they want if they encounter anyone moving slower than themselves...
 
on my trips up there the worse offenders appear to be the locals on ATVs....not waiting and going pretty much wherever they want if they encounter anyone moving slower than themselves...

I've been saying this for years. I believe that >85% of the trash on trails comes from ATV drivers. They need to keep them off the truck trails and let them have their own and then we will see where most of the trash is.
 
To all,

We will be doing trail cleanup on Wolf's Den at this upcoming December ride and verifying scheduling for the winter trail maintenance days at that time.
 
on my trips up there the worse offenders appear to be the locals on ATVs....not waiting and going pretty much wherever they want if they encounter anyone moving slower than themselves...


that's exactly my experience as well. Not trying to play the blame game here, but those guys are sharing the trails we are and not playing by the same rules. :popcorn:

Every time i have been down there wheeling or riding with someone, ATV's are always blasting around through the woods off the trails. Perhaps if they had more rangers every so often looking for that stuff and issuing tickets to them it may help slow them down.
 
Every time i have been down there wheeling or riding with someone, ATV's are always blasting around through the woods off the trails. Perhaps if they had more rangers every so often looking for that stuff and issuing tickets to them it may help slow them down.

I agree Alex. Not that I think the Rangers aren't doing their job but it would be nice to see someone proactively monitoring/patroling the trails. Only once have I seen a Ranger approach someone and it was our host during the last work day (erosion control) and we weren't even on the trails...
 
i googled around yesterday and found a couple ATv sites. None of them have any mention of work days or conservation or anything of the sorts. I was going to try to at least post the letter and see if I could get some awareness but I had some computer issues. I may try again. Has anyone looked on the jeep sites? is there as much awareness over there?
 
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